Balrog's 'What went wrong' and 'Critique' video thread

Thanks for the advice.
I do feel that I am in the charge back position way to much.
I have been trying to stand a bit more and work on my anti jump in, seems to be where Im getting killed the most.
Also I feel like I need to work on the timing of my combos as well, still not as consistant as I would like to be.

thanks again

Alright guys, I posted some new videos.
This batch has more than a couple of good losses to evaluate.
I would love to get some help, feedback from you.

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thanks again
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I would say don’t use the ex as much and mix up your rushes a bit more . i laughing when you blown that ultra at the end cause i do the same thing sometime lol

I just went to the first video you had on there against bison.

You use ex headbutt too much for one and you use headbutt too often it seems. You also throw out jab a lot when bison is pressuring you, that’s just a recipe to eat s.HK or a scissors. Use a nuetral jump sometimes in those situation you can catch him coming in.

I’d use more overheads against bison. I really think you use wakeup headbutt too often it’s just a recipe for getting punished and against bison if you headbutt like that you’re just gonna eat another knockdown and have to deal with his wakeup options against you.

Other then that looks good.

edit: Just watched your sakura match. There isn’t much reason to be using headbutt after c.LP x 2 c.LK if they are blocking, just end with dash punch. Also dude what’s up with the 7% disconnect? hahaha Also everytiem you landed an overhead you did c.HK you need to get the c.LK xx headbutt down. It’s not a hard combo.

valid points, and thank you.
I can see all that stuff when I watch the vids, just really hard to break those bad habits.
Seems like I go into practice mode and do those combos over and over to woek it into muscle memory, but when the pressure is on I just revert back to those habits.
Im tryin got improve on the fact that I still still in the charge postion way to much, hopefully that goes away.

Thanks for the feedback and Ill continue to work on it.

If you havent subscribed, i would do that as I will be posting more matches pretty much every day.

thanks again

yeah agreed. When i used to get into pressure situations i just mash c.LP. basically what i ended up doing with champion edition is make a point to do bnb combos even if it meant i lost. Just so i could get used to doing them in combat. thankfully a loss doesn’t make you lose points like in Ranked matches so you can practice all you want.

I think you need more practice on recognizing openings (such as a blocked uppercut) and maximizing damage. For instance, you do rush punch, or headbutt, or c.lp a lot, but I never saw you time the c.mp -> Headbutt, or even just doing the ultra. Getting every little bit helps in a tough match.

you also should work on incorporating neutral jump more into your game, doing wakeup headbutt way less (especially in situations where they’re not even putting any pressure on you), and learn to anti air with C.FP

Also, might want to stop smack talking the Ryu players until you have your game a bit tighter yourself, you talk about all the moves he does that takes no skill, then throw our random ex punches and c.RH… not exactly the top level of skill.

Exactly, i have slowed down the smack talk on the Ryu players except when Im by my self and there is no camera.
I HATE RYU, and the reason is because there are just sooooo many of em, Capcom made a point to make him a bit more powerful because he is the face of the game, but jesus… they need to nerf him a bit…

Anyway done with my ramble, your points are well taken and I understand.
I have been trying to work on maximizing my damage when there are openings, but again, the habits are hard to break.

I am hoping that you will be able to see the progress as I post more vids.

Thanks for the input and I will just have to keep practicing.

Thanks

can you guys comment on my balrog?

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btw
A problem I already know is i throw headbutt always, i should use it only in combos, jump ins, and as a punisher. But aside from that, what else can you comment on? Am i not punishing ryu’s move that i shoud? set ups? etc… :slight_smile:

I just finished watching the first video:

First of, that ryu was kinda scrubby.

  • At the beginning of the 1st round he walks towards you and it’s clear he’s going for a throw. First time you punch him, second time you just stand there and get thrown.

  • You fall for too many random srk. that guy is clearly a dp masher, just interrupt your block strings sometimes and start blocking. He’ll do a dp, you block and punish accordingly.

  • Use your EX meter more!!! Balrog super is nice but especially against shotos that throw lots of fireballs ex rush punches are extremely important. I can’t count the times where one of your dash punches was smacked by a normal hadooken and all those times you could have done 100+ damage to him with a normal ex dash straight or even better dash upper or overhead to c.lp or c.lk xx headbutt combo.

  • TAP around fireballs

  • That ryu didn’t block those random headbutts most of the time, but don’t get into that habit, it’ll get you raped against good players (same goes for me,hehe)

  • Mashing lp on a srk happy ryu that’s waking up is a bad bad bad idea.

Other than that your links are pretty solid most of the time, you’re pretty good even tho that ryu wasn’t much of a challenge

dont go so much for the jab jab dash straigh combo, because in some cases you may want to knock them down, plus Rogs BnB (bread and butter) combo does more its

C.jab x2 xx C.lk xx HP headbutt

also, u need to play patient. You seem to be hasty. Dont get me wrong, when u got ur opponent in the corner, put a load of pressure on him, but dont over do it all the time. for example, ur jump ins. space yourself out. i recommend HK because you can hit your opponent at a higher distance, which greatly disables their ability to react. if your opponent jumps, use HP, since that hits mostly straight and has range.

Try not to headbutt so much. You got punished a lot for doing it. the headbutt can go through fireballs. dont wake up headbutt so much ull get punished like you did.

also, you better use that EX meter that you have. Rog’s EX attacks absorb a hit except for the EX dash upper towards the end of the animation. use these to close the gap, or right when your opponent throws a fireball to absorb it and counter.

also, when your opponent jumps in ON YOU, if you werent knocked down, Rog’s Crouching HP will beat mostly anything. Its a Very Very VERY good anti air.

You got potential, but you need work, Just like everyone else Needs work…

** Originally Posted by superlollo View Post**
I just finished watching the first video:

First of, that ryu was kinda scrubby.

  • At the beginning of the 1st round he walks towards you and it’s clear he’s going for a throw. First time you punch him, second time you just stand there and get thrown. ok

  • You fall for too many random srk. that guy is clearly a dp masher, just interrupt your block strings sometimes and start blocking. He’ll do a dp, you block and punish accordingly. ok

  • Use your EX meter more!!! Balrog super is nice but especially against shotos that throw lots of fireballs ex rush punches are extremely important. I can’t count the times where one of your dash punches was smacked by a normal hadooken and all those times you could have done 100+ damage to him with a normal ex dash straight or even better dash upper or overhead to c.lp or c.lk xx headbutt combo. i agree 100%, i should use it more, i will next time.

  • TAP around fireballs
    alright

  • That ryu didn’t block those random headbutts most of the time, but don’t get into that habit, it’ll get you raped against good players (same goes for me,hehe)
    alright.

  • Mashing lp on a srk happy ryu that’s waking up is a bad bad bad idea.
    i know, what i was ttrying to do was make him look like i was mashing cr lp while he’s down and at the moment he wakes up ill back up a lil but and go for cr.mp dash straight combo, but i dont pull it off consistently

Other than that your links are pretty solid most of the time, you’re pretty good even tho that ryu wasn’t much of a challenge thanks :smiley:


Originally Posted by DBR x Justice

dont go so much for the jab jab dash straigh combo, because in some cases you may want to knock them down, plus Rogs BnB (bread and butter) combo does more its ok then, so i’ll mix it up jab jab dash straight with jab jab low straight?

i’ve seen gootecks use the BNB you speak of, it’s good, the only problem i have with that is that you have to be close to your opponent because if you’re not close enough the cr.lk will whiff, what do i do if it does?

C.jab x2 xx C.lk xx HP headbutt

also, u need to play patient. You seem to be hasty. Dont get me wrong, when u got ur opponent in the corner, put a load of pressure on him, but dont over do it all the time. for example, ur jump ins. space yourself out. i recommend HK because you can hit your opponent at a higher distance, which greatly disables their ability to react. if your opponent jumps, use HP, since that hits mostly straight and has range.

great advice right there, i understand what you mean by the jump in spacings, sometimes when i jump in i over jump and i just get throwed

Try not to headbutt so much. You got punished a lot for doing it. the headbutt can go through fireballs. dont wake up headbutt so much ull get punished like you did. alright

also, you better use that EX meter that you have. Rog’s EX attacks absorb a hit except for the EX dash upper towards the end of the animation. use these to close the gap, or right when your opponent throws a fireball to absorb it and counter. ok

also, when your opponent jumps in ON YOU, if you werent knocked down, Rog’s Crouching HP will beat mostly anything. Its a Very Very VERY good anti air.

You got potential, but you need work, Just like everyone else Needs work… thanks i guess :tup:

so pretty much what i got from both of your advises right there (thanks btw) is that i should use ex more often, tap on fireballs, spacing when jumping in, jab jab dash mixups, dont headbutt too much, use his bnb. oh and use j.hp if you meet in the air. did i miss anything ?

you should be fine =)

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Yes, the spacing is very important because Rog doesnt have a cross up. Also, Like you said on how Gootecks does the C. jab x2 xx C. lk xx HP headbutt

First of all, if you jump in correctly, Youll get close to your opponent. second, if you find that the C. LK misses a lot, you could just go one jab instead of 2, then short. If the short misses anyway, it recovers pretty quickly, so it would be hard to punish. You can just block, expecting a counter, or do a C. MP xx dash punch or dash low.

hey everyone,
i really digg the idea of this, so here are my videos. i have 10 matches and i ll keep updating as often as i can. please comment (it was really laggy for these matches so i made a lot of lag mistakes).

honestly if you have laggy matches don’t bother posting them especially when a lot of people will critique bread and butter type stuff.

hi guys, im going to revive this thread with a match vs rufus, this is a WF from a tournament here in mexico, thanks for your time.

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Might as well post matches i have played.

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Note that i have improved alot since these matches. I had Balrog’s metagame down but i was lacking fundamental basics (anti-air, throw techs etc). So i went back and started to improve on that. My anti-air game has really improved but i’m still at a loss on option select tech throw (just never seems to work for me.)

It’s been excellent to get the PC version… i’ve used wegame to capture the videos of my balrog game.

There are quite a few and i watch it myself and there’s a lot of room for improvement.

http://www.wegame.com/users/koroshiya/

I’d actually like someone to critique this.

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