I’ve been playing around with Dorm(Hole)/Iron Man(Unibeam)/Doom(Missiles) a bit recently and having a blast. You don’t need an OTG assist because Dorm can get a relaunch out of either Missiles or Unibeam anywhere on screen (or do one of his advanced bnbs that doesnt need one) and with Unibeam already present I personally don’t feel like Sent is the strongest way to go.
Having both Missiles and a solid beam assist makes Dorm scary as hell and able to be played any way you want to/the matchup dictates. IM loves Missiles, gets combo extension out of either assist and provides a very nice damage DHC for Dorm. Doom certainly has his issues in the anchor slot with some really nasty matchups but I feel like he adds enough to the team to compensate and in many matchups he can put in a lot of work. I really can’t stress enough how obnoxiously good Dorm can be with this setup, which is the main reason I’m toying with it.
I have been messing around with the Ammy Cold Star assist to replicate or to do something similar to the Marlin Pie Doom guard break/unblockable mix-up with Iron Man. It actually work quite well. I have a few variations after I pop them with a meaty j.m or j.l cancel into ADD, like I can go up again and air throw, wait for them to fall into the assist and mix them up, jump up and do a j.h ADF overhead or ADD and go low, etc.
The only problem is I can’t play Ammy. So do anyone know another assist that does similar thing to Cold Star. I think the only other assist that can do this set up is the drones, but then it also means you have to play the robot…so I just want to find another character thats not Ammy and Sentinel but have a similar assist.
I have read the forums since MVC3 first came out and i have never really posted anything here. I keep myself updated in the FGC and watch tons of streams but i have never seen a team with Storm/Iron Man/Dr. Doom. I have been messing around with that team when im bored of my main team because those 3 were my squad back in the MVC2 days. Anyone come across this team before? If so, does anyone have any links to someone playing it. Tell me what you guys think.
I don’t know much about Storm but she would probably benefit from either Unibeam/Repulsar Blast, and as far as Doom he’s a great partner for Iron Man, arguably the best one besides Sentinel. Also you are doing the right think by playing Iron Man in second position.
Are sent / ammy really that necessary for tony to do his thing ? I really love iron man, but I can’t stand playing sent and ammy…especially on anchor…and I know IMs best place is in the second slot, so what I’m trying to figure out is if there is a suitable anchor that can replace drones / cold star, and still be a good anchor…only other characters I can think of are doom for missiles and akuma tatsu…if y’all can think of anything else please let me know, I’d appreciate it. Also, what are y’all doing to open people up ? It’s not like IM has a strong trijump mixup game like storm / mags…Everything but his ADD trijump is easy to react to…suggestions / tips ? Thanks <3
Iron Man has a tough time opening opponents up. His fly/unfly stuff puts the opponent in a massive amount of blockstun, but they guard it forever once they understand what you are doing. Super jump ADD at alternating between j.L or c.L can work, and you can also fuzzy guard medium or large characters by doing something like j.M, j.M, c.L. In the corner, throws become a viable option because you can link c.L after them to get a combo, without using L Smart Bombs, although you can still use L Smart Bombs here if you want to/miss the c.L link/get a corner air throw.
He has a crossup j.M but its incredibly inconsistent. Your best bet is alternating high/low and going for a throw, Iron Man can only follow up a ground throw in the corner or close to the corner, or in XF2 or XF3 where his ground dash becomes fast enough to dash up and do L Smart Bombs. If your opponent is intent on blocking forever sometimes f.throw is your only option, and sometimes I get lucky after a forward throw and a Hidden Missile bops them in a situation I couldn’t normally ground dash, L Smart Bombs and I get a real followup.
Also I should add if you ever whiff s.H in front of an opponent immediately cancel it into c.H, c.H xx fly, or s.H xx fly, or even late Unibeam as a terrible jank ass blockstring. s.H is -16 on block where c.H is + 4.
As far as your other question, Iron Man really needs an assist to be good, Drones and Hidden missiles are best but Akuma tatsu and Ammy Cold Star also work.
Best characters backing up Tony on point ? I’m looking for one in the second slot as I really want to run tony on point. I’d rather be left with _____ / sentinel, as opposed to having my last two characters be tony / sent. Right now I’m running Dante, and my Dante is relatively good, but I’m not really feelin Dante in the second slot…something just feels off. Any other ideas ? I was thinking storm maybe, and also possibly dorm, but I dont know what they could do for tony really. I’m sure dark hole can help keep them in place, and whirlwind can…uhh… Yeah. Since whirlwind pushes them away I kinda feel like its counter intuitive to helping tony get in since his air dash isn’t that quick. If y’all have any suggestions I’d love to hear…anyone but doom really -_- I want to play tony more than anyone, but it seems difficult for me to find characters that really gel with tony on point…i might just go back to my shuma / dorm / sent team if I can’t find characters that I feel have good chemistry
I’ll take a shot at this , since yr content with drones alrdy that’s a lot if what iron man needs , after that you have a few things to consider , its prob best to pair with an assist that let’s him get extended combos , wall or ground bounces are good looks too .
So I would tell u to try , Spencer or racoon. Spencer is better character and his assist(slant) covers a zone I feel tony has trouble with and you can extend combos with ease as well . Racoon is good becuz log trap is so good . So whichever u resonate more with , just my two cents hope it helps
Ironman is shit on point because it puts him at a disadvantage at round start, even coming in after a death is better because of air dash up then starting a match next to the guy.
Could you explain more on why IM on point sucks? I am not asking to question your knowledge (I’ve seen your vids, you rock) I am trying to obtain as much knowledge about IM as possible.
On the topic of teams, I post something in the general discussion thread, but I thought I’d get the opinions of people of play IM. I just got back into the game and IM is going to be on my team no matter what. I plan to take the game seriously but still have fun w/ it and I don’t mind losing in order to get better.
That said, right now I am playing IM, Morrigan, Doom. I got advice from the general discussion thread to switch IM and Morrigans places, a sentiment that has been echoed elsewhere. I only put Doom on the team because I know he works well w/ Morrigan after watching ChrisG. My original idea was to use Vergil instead of Doom but I am not sure about the synergy the Vergil has w/ IM and Morrigan.
Any thoughts on my team or advice is greatly appreciated. I come from SF4 and before that a ST background. Played MvC2 back in the day but was never very good at all and played MvC3 vanilla when it came out but got too salty and got rid of it.
Slow, can’t wave dash, crap buttons, hard hit-confirms and basic combo, has to be almost point blank to apply mix-ups, mediocre at everything else except damage and meter build per combo (but it won’t matter because there won’t a chance to land it anyway)
What you’re running is a very strong team and definitely works well for Iron Man, he’s a nice battery for Morrigan, unibeam could allow Morrigan to run a surprise offense, Doom is optimal assist for both characters, etc. Only problem I do see is that both characters in my opinion prefer being second, Morrigan for the sake of meter and Iron Man because as I have said, has a really uphill battle at the start of the round. I think either is a workable choice, but I’d probably put Morrigan on point, she starts with a meter for astral vision if necessary and can get Iron Man in to refill meter pretty easily if needed in exchange for a much starter round start than you would get with Iron Man.
Thanks for the advice. Between what you’ve said and what I’ve read everywhere else I am 99% confident in this team selection and will now begin the work to start learning all 3 of them. Starting w/ Iron Man of course. ; )
One last question for all of you guys. I really liked Repulsar assist in MvC2, it was so amazing. Is it that good in this game or should I just stick w/ Unibeam as his assist? Of course Morrigan will be Dark Harmonizer and Doom will be hidden missles.
Oh ya, and Smart Bombs OTG but unless I am wrong I don’t think I will need them with this team considering If I am playing Doom it will mean is alone anyway in most cases as he is there mostly for his assist.
Everyone and their mothers seems to love repulsar blast but I think it’s severely overrated as an assist. The small niche it does fill is done better by doom, where the applications of unibeam, while not huge for morrigan, are more unique, such as the ability to quickly mount an offense. That said you could probably make either work, just keep in mind most of the time you’d rather have missiles available.