aang never went through placement tests. the air nomads just told him he was the avatar. even if i were to accept your theory, “aangmon” would take away her bending (let’s be real, she does not have ozai-level willpower) as previewed for the next episode. if she isn’t the avatar, she can’t be in touch with the spirit world (in TLA, iroh, sokka and aang were the only ones who glimpsed into that world; iroh achieved spiritual purity, aang is the bridge between two worlds, and sokka dated the moon/ was stolen by a spirit panda); unless she progresses spiritually to iroh-level fortitude, it just becomes.
even beyond that, let’s say she bends four elements and faces aangmon. yes they both fight with four elements, but then aangmon just uses the avatar state and overpowers the shit out of her. it’s fray either way so it doesn’t make sense
Korra = avatar. : / really unlikely she isn’t since she was flatout presented as “The Avatar” by the staff, she can bend multiple elements, visions of aang, and let’s be honest avatar state is such a retarded “I win” button if the bad guy had it would just be game over.
Could be Yakone who got his bending back. Maybe after losing his bending he went on some soul search or whatever and discovered energy bending. So he was able to unblock his 5th chakra (or something) and restore his bending. He was able to bloodbend without a stance so would explain him resisting bloodbending as he could counter it.
I’d vomit if it was zuko though … he’d hide his face and it’s known he is alive. He also knows about energy bending but never had to learn techniques. No telling how shit went down between him and Aang after that. There just wouldn’t be a good explanation for why he could resist bloodbending. Would explain why he is able to bitch slap every modern bender into oblivion though without need for bending.
like they took the only thing that regulated blood bending? or that guy that could bend fire with their mind?
“Aang was born into the Air Nomad tribes immediately after the death of Avatar Roku. When he was just a baby, the Monks who headed the temples had Aang pick out several toys. Aang chose 4 specific objects known as the “Avatar Relics,” a clear sign that he was to be the next Avatar, the most powerful individual in the Four Nations. He was raised with the intention of having this secret told to him when he reached 16.”
and the part about aang just going avatar state… imagine if korra found the spirituality to do the same? you’re just saying “goku is going to win every fight he’ll just go ssj10 and pwn all the noobs”… and you’re assuming she does get her powers taken away and that she won’t have to transform spiritually.
i’m just playing devil’s advocate (as stated before) but i’m more or less thinking about how the writers have been setting everything up. there are obvious hints to her not being the avatar (as i stated before). there has also been no mention of aang’s death. aang’s death would have been within the week of korra’s birth, and korra would have been given the tests that aang was given. instead of learning how to bend her native element first, she just started bending everything without being taught or achieving avatar state, which was the whole premise of the first series. everyone just assumed she was the avatar, but she hasn’t done anything avatar-ish outside of bending 3/4 elements. and that’s all assuming aang has been dead.
also, you have to think about the writing process of the show. the pace moves very fast and everything said has probably gone through dozens of edits so that only the relevant is stated. there is rarely any needless banter, and rarely any moment wasted. what was the whole part of the whole tarlok saga? the flashback showed that there is a growth in bending that was thought unattainable and someone who is a threat to even the avatar. why would this be important to the story? what would confirming that there are special benders be contributing in the grand scheme of things? who was the only person who could stand up to blood bending before? why show that aang can use avatar state to negate bending?
if amon is just “someone else” not related to aang or aang himself, then you’re under the assumption that someone just learned all this shit only done by the avatar by himself. and if that was the case, why would there be a reason to hide his identity? if its not a character that they expect you to know, they are building you up for some sort of failure.
i’m not looking at this like its some dbz fanfic. just looking at it as where the writers would go, and i am playing alot of devils advocate. that is all.
well the problem with all your theories is that all of them are unprecedented.
Korra being just a special bender and not really the avatar.
Aangmon(or anybody) can go into a person’s dream during their spirit state.
aang having a turning a 180 on his beliefs to turn into aangmon
it would be cool I guess to see avatar v avatar, but that storyline would just be really gimmicky and nothing like how the previous episodes/series are made. It’s like having a twist just to have a twist.
the first is more or less my theory. of course its uprecendented.
2nd is more or less a guess. maybe its not aang talking to korra. maybe is other spirits in the spirit realm. note that aang doesn’t need to be the one to distribute these visions, so that isn’t really a good case that aang is dead as well.
aang turning on his beliefs… wouldn’t be the first time. and i’m just looking at where the story would go to fit my theory… so… of course its unprecendented. all he needs is a good reason to do so… maybe seeing some dude twist a room of people into pretzels and walk out without any resistance was a wake up call. all you need is a reason.
and if you aren’t expecting a twist, i dunno what to tell you. if you expect amon just to be some dude, then you’ll probably be the only person not surprised when it actually is some dude. but everyone else is expecting amon’s identity to be a twist, and they will be disappointed.
this is a guy who didn’t even consider for a second to kill Ozai in order to save the world. So no, I don’t think there will be any reason big enough to change his mentality about things. Aang gave everyone the benefit of the doubt, which is the exact opposite of what Amon is doing.
and AMON being just AMON is a bad thing? Amon is already top-tier villain/anti-hero(maybe) just by what he’s shown us, he is good as he is. Turning him into a character that we’ve seen before would just ruin his character altogether because it’ll feel like an unprecedented silly twist (given that no one has been able to do what Amon is doing ie: chi-blocking+energy bending).
aang just took his powers away. amon is just taking powers away. amon hasn’t killed anyone. and 20-30 years of seeing his town become corrupt can change someone. and more so when you see how bad it could be.
amon being amon is fine. but why mask him? it serves no purpose to have a mask except to hide identity. who else wears masks outside of hollywood serial killers that doesn’t want to hide an identity. he would be much more fearsome as a visual representation of his stance, not a faceless anarchist that is really a no one. if amon’s identity was being amon, they wouldn’t hide that. if that is their story, then that’s just bad character development.
i believe that this staff wasn’t granted the luxury of doing meaningless things. and i believe these guys understand their craft well enough that you just can’t mask someone and not have that persons identity not be a big issue.
Those are merely subsets of a singular ability, using multiple elemental abilities is an entirely different thing.
Korra being able to communicate with the previous Avatar via visions negates any theory that she isn’t the Avatar.
My opinion- it may be possible to simulate the powers of other elements, but if there is, the process of conjuring those elements wouldn’t be rudimentary.
as i said before, seeing visions doesn’t mean anything. note: you never see aang directing these dreams. he just stars in them.
korra just feels that aang is directing them, but it seems weird that she would even mention that, considering she never really connects with aang directly. its all assumption. there are tons of spirits and tons of avatars in the spirit realm, and it has been shown that other people can communicate with the spirits, that was emphasized multiple times in the first series.
lets say everything that i said is how it goes. what if the spirit world realizes that because aang has gone rogue that korra is the only person with the ability to bend all elements due to being a special bender, and the other being in the spirit realm are reaching out for her to stop aang from making a big mistake. aang isn’t the one pushing korra into these visions, one of the many spirits is. could be past avatars or one of the spiritual beings in that plane. the only thing that even leads you to believe its aang is that a) he’s in the visions and b) everyone in the story assumes its aang trying to contact her.
but the fact that you don’t see aang as a spirit directing should be a huge indication that it isnt. and its made even more obvious that even without proof that they are constantly throwing stuff like “so thats what you wanted to show me, aang” so suspect. in fiction, when does anyone in a story believe something completely baseless and NOT have it come back an bite them in the ass? there is just as much proof that aang is pushing the visions upon korra as there are indications that asami is the true avatar.
of course the spirit world reaching out is all theory, but i think based on what we do know: the visions cannot be assumed to be aang, so that alone cannot trump any statement i’ve made.
Gotdamn how the hell do people come out with this bullshit , I bet even you dont believe what you’re saying.
Edit: As far as the episode goes , it was the best episode to me since the show started. Explained alot of things about Tarlok past and stuff. As far as Im concerned Amon is definetly a blood bender which is why he was able to resist Tarloks blood bending.
I think subt-l is onto something. She was never given a similar test like Aang to prove shes the avatar. She just out-right claimed it as her title when she could possibly be another special case of an overpowered bender. It may or may not be true but I like the theory.
If she can bend 3 out of the 4 elements, see Aang in her visions, have her name in the title of the show but is somehow NOT the Avatar, I don’t know what to think any more.
And Amon can’t be Zuko. He could be Zuko’s son but not Zuko himself. Still, he could be anyone (except anyone from the former main cast, 70+ years is a bitch for anyone to deal with). Smart money is on him being related to a former character though.
I’m also legitimately mad that I have to wait 2 weeks for the next episode. Oh well, I guess there’s Young Justice to watch (I hope).
i’m just arguing a point that is far more interesting than most people’s theories and backed it up (with conjecture, but valid nonetheless when guessing a scripted show). most everyone’s ideas are boring because they are just thinking story, not what someone telling a story would come up with.
in the end, all my argument can rely on is: the only thing that can prove that korra is the avatar is if aang is dead. if aang isn’t dead, then my guess is valid. i would love to see the proof that aang has passed, anything like a grave or a tomb or a vision…
you don’t have that. and odds are you don’t have that because the person telling the story has a reason for it. i’m just guessing the reason. it could be something else. who knows. but i’ve defended myself against all of these points earlier in my posts (though, i could personally come up with better reasons against my own theory than what people have tried to rebuttal with… ^_^), so i don’t think it’d be retarded if it actually ended up being the storyline that happened.
though, having her name in the title as proof that she’s the avatar… that is a new one…