Arcade SSF4 Bison: What tweaks or changes would you want to see?

Official changes should be up tonite!

does anyone know when the AE DLC will drop? i read the arcade edition release date will be dec 16 but i’m not too sure about this.

maybe the arcade cabinet will release on the 16th but the patch on console date is unnanounced as of yet?

as a side note, i’m taking a break from bison to play guy. anyone else getting another character ready for when the patch drops?

AE DLC probably next season.

DLC is unannounced … Capcom’s really hurting themselves and arcades with this, tho. When all the tournaments are on consoles, there’s not much reason to spend time at the arcade past the initial novelty period.

Blog changes are up:

Looks like they nerfed scissor loops by increasing the pushback on lk scissors. gah

link?

Google Translation:

Early translation: http://shoryuken.com/f315/ssfiv-ae-blog-changes-yoshinori-ono-doesnt-care-about-green-people-255022/index65.html#post9943940

SO:

  • s.RH is 80 @ tip, 110 @ base
  • c.LK “vulnerable slightly longer”
  • LK SK pushback increased, for less effective loops
  • Super is fully projectile-invincible
  • U2 is charge motion

IMO: Fuck Bison.

japanese blog

SUPER STREET FIGHTER IV???IV ???

looks like a nerf to c.lk also gah

it says they made the hitbox better of c lk

SSF4 AE changes: Dhalsim, Bison, Akuma, T. Hawk & Adon : News : EventHubs.com

Hittable box, i.e vulnerable box or hurt box. It’s easier to hit him out of c.lk.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

I’m playing with U1 since the first time that i read about U2 changefucked to charge

AE edition is’nt out and i yet miss my istant U2 :<

Only interessing thing may be the “invincible” Super,but i find it useless since Dictator’s EX are so good that i never use it

Hmm everything I expected to see, though I will admit the cr.lk nerf was a surprise. I guess I will see how it plays out when AE gets shoved down our throats.

yeah true that.

For the cr lk hurtbox nerf, it says it’s minor so it may not be very noticeable.

Could of been worse. At least they didn’t fuck with his delicious frame data.

Really can’t believe they nerfed Bison’s primary means of attacking so bad. Push back on lk sk, plus an easier to beat c.lk in between sks was bison’s whole game pretty much up close. Because of the fear of a c.lk after an sk, people wouldn’t press buttons, so you had a “sort of” mix up game, but now they can. I am betting that lots of things that are not 3 frames will trade or stuff c.lk after a lk sk now.

I’m calling Guile vs Bison as 8-2. Now it’s even harder to stay in when you get in. Using SK seems like it may be a liability now. Bison won’t be winning any tournaments doing so little damage and now being pushed out once he gets in.

“Comparatively, he is above standard in terms of a character’s strength, but he’s more dependent on players’ skills due to the adjustments.”

Oh yeah, because Bison isn’t dependent at all on player skill as is<- insert sarcasm

Screw this game, im playing nothing but MvC3 when it comes out

I had a good laugh.

It seems Bison is meant to play keep away.

Not quite my cup of tea.

“Light Scissor Kicks push back further when blocked, making it harder to punish him, but also making it more difficult to keep pressure on with Crouching Light Kick afterwards.”

Light SK is neutral on block anyways, so “making it harder to punish” is pure BS. The important question is whether the scissor kick loop still works or not. With the increased distance, maybe cr.MK will have to be used.

Also,when do you ever hit your opponent with S.HK from the knee down? So I get a +10 extra damage for hitting crouching opponents now? Jeez.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO… our scissor loops… i hope that the pushback is only like 1 pixel further, i don’t like the idea of continuing scissor pressure with a slow-ass cr.mp xx mk.sk. after like the first lk.sk.

at least they nerfed the tatsu, but they can now abuse their fireball game now without the threat of an easily accessible U2.

why couldn’t they have just kept everyone the same except those that really needed buffing (i.e hakan and makoto) is beyond me. if people in japan loctests let these changes fly, then to me it’s like japanese people get a hard on seeing turtle fests.

My thoughts exactly. They must think that lk.sk is spammable or something, because it’s not like every character and their mother has found ways around Bison’s pressure by now (or you know, they could just block).