I’m liking these additions to the rules. I know that online BB has the right stick “easy specials” locked out, so I think that should also be a rule for anyone using pad.
The button mapping rule in 2) seems like sound enough logic. All other types of mapping are restricted. Should mapping be handled this early; what do you all think?
Chime in before I add these rules to the OP. I think banning Ultimate Characters is universally acceptable, so I’ll just go ahead and add that. Other BB rules will have to wait for a consensus or strong majority.
The majority of people are saying 3/5 for winners, losers, and grand finals. Jesse likes that too, so that will become the AL ranbat standard.
For all our tournaments we allowed GG players to map whatever they wanted, since their community accepted that standard, which was different than the Capcom standard. Also for Tekken. I’d imagine BB should probably be the same since there will be lots of new, pad players. Pretty much nobody who really gets into the game and is good is going to use macros anyway.
I’m almost tempted to allow them for SFIV at SB since there might be so many new people, but Fugee and I decided that the official stance will be the old stance of no macros. It’s going to be impossible for whoever runs SFIV to police it though, so it will really be up to the opposing player to complain if his opponent is using macros on pad.
Does anyone who is coming to the ranbat Saturday have a copy of GGAC+ that they could bring? I can’t find any store in Cincinnati that has one new or used.
Barf, I can’t make it now. I’m in a singing competition and the finals are this Sat just found out on Friday. Hope everyone has a good time – hopefully I’ll get down there on 8-1 or at least in Aug
It looks like I’ll be able to make the whole day after all, which is fun for me! I can at least bring GGAC, minus the +. I think that gameplay wise these games are identical. And since Kliff and Justice are banned anyway, AC should be sufficient. Anyone know of something that I don’t when it comes to the differences between these games?
I demand Lion King be added to the old school list! Its for the SNES. There is no such thing as a gameover for me when it comes to Lion King for the SNES.
As for the button mapping, I need to know what the decision on that is. If I can’t have my grab set to R2 and my barrier block set to R1 then I can’t play, I could but it would be a waste of money on my part because of the way I have my buttons set up on the pad.
Not everyone can afford an arcadestick, and borrowing is taboo and annoying.
I worked really hard to learn how to play on the pad because I enjoy BB.
I do not set my supers on any button or on any direction on the right analog stick. I do those manually the “old fashioned way”.
I do believe no moves whatsoever should be mapped on the right analog stick.
So please make a decision soon so that way I know whether or not I can play.
I don’t see why mapping should be a problem for BB. Is pressing an extra button on a fight stick that much different or difficult than pressing one button on a pad? I can’t imagine anyone actually losing because of this. Unless a bunch of people are against it and say so here on the board, I have no problem with it. Definitely no moves mapped on the right analog stick.
There is definitely a difference in execution honestly in pushing two buttons instead of one – Marvel is easiest to see this. Even in games like 3s, you can mess up the timing and you don’t get your throw/EX move because you didn’t push them exactly the same time in the heat of the moment.
But I don’t think button binding should be banned for the new games – pad has its own disadvantages and no one really plays pad anyway. Plus Evo allows macros anyway, it’s not ever an issue.
Sounds excellent! I should also be able to now make it for the whole ranbat day so I can get by GG and BB on.
Also, should I go ahead and update the BB rules in the ranbat posts to reflect that macros on gamepad will be allowed, but specials mapped to the analog sticks will not? That seems like the direction things are going in.
That rules update sounds good. When I listed that set of rules before I was just stating what I remembered as being tourny standard. I’m really not concerned at all. I admire anyone who can play pad, macros and all. I’ve never been able to use the crazy d-pad.
I was curious what we’re doing about button mapping for future capcom games. Are we going to go with having multiple attacks mapped to one button or not? It won’t make any difference for me, since I’m a stick player. I’m just curious.
http://evo2k.com/?page_id=378 (scroll down a bit)
Button mapping is allowed (button mapping here defined as multiple attacks on one button I would assume?). Anybody want to clarify this? This has got to be the most vague thing ever…
I think you guys are on the right track with “button binding”
The reason its kind of mushy is because you are not allowed to map directions plus buttons, or multiple attacks at once. There is technology that would let you do combos with a single button press.
Like Ghaleon said, MvC2 is an exception because dashing is done with multiple buttons rather than the stick. Its hard to time this while hitting buttons in combos.
When somebody maps airdashing to a shoulder button it makes me sad.
Honestly the only thing that should be bound is rapid cancels. It’s a 4 button game do you really need throws mapped? Tekken doesn’t have mapped throws .
If it means anything, I will hopefully have at least one ps3 ready stick and two in the future because i’m crazy and hate money. One will be dedicated for a loaner during ranbats/tourneys that I am attending, which will be pretty much everything but brawl.
just found out on Friday. Hope everyone has a good time – hopefully I’ll get down there on 8-1 or at least in Aug
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