Arc-Eye / Project Gouken - ARCEYE2 IS ARRIVING!

unfortunately i don’t offer modding services… installs take me a long time and i’m already spread thin working on other projects… although hes based in the US, gummowned is a wiz and is very reasonable with his prices and knows all my mods inside and out… you should contact him!

no worries on using the diagram. it’s what it is there for.

as purplearms mentioned you can, but with very small smd. i am not too sure if 0805 package is small enough (most common) you may have to drop to 0603 package. just make sure you don’t bridge the connections.

Thank you for being honest, gummowned. There was a point and time when researching all this that I realized the real complexity and that I may be in over my head. At the same time reading through all these threads, I saw how many of you gentlemen working on your mods would sometime meet obstactles and working together were able to overcome them. So I may blow a couple things up in the process, its part of the learning process. Im trying to find a program we used to back in the day in my electronics class in college, modeling/prototyping complex wiring schemes and circuts between pcbs and stuff, with the ability to model power input from various sources, logic, switches, inputs and outputs. Its actually pretty nifty, I just cant remember the name, im sure you gentlemen may use something similar. Its my intention to use this type of program to try and make things a little easier for me, when it comes to wiring it all.

All that said, I think the dual jack, in my case rj45/usb is not a bad idea at all and I may probaly start with that concept. Nothing soldered is forever and in the future if we are able to come up with a more elegant solution, I can always rework things.

Silly me I was unaware of your leo2 board, and will go research that very soon. It is my intention to start with the leo(2) board for dual wiredless, verify that works, then try to add the MCC and see where I get with that. Once I can those boards in and working nicely, I attempt to add the masterstrike and the LED setup.

BTW, I saw one of your vlogs that was posted here earlier, you have a very beautiful pit! I have 5 myself, excellent intelligent dogs :slight_smile: Thank you for your time

Sounds really neat, although I am not that familar the paewang dual pcb. Is that the pcb that would allow for dreamcast support? Either way good luck, im sure you will work it out, let us kno how it goes and take pictures :slight_smile:

Once again thank you for your insights. I will try using to two ports first as your and gummowned have suggested. I also thinking that using this solution will help avoid having to use another switch for controlling wired and wireless modes. Pretty soon I will start ordering stuff and start trying to do it, because I can only get so far by trying to plan everything and now its time to get my hands dirty.

Thank you for the additional information regarding the usb sync and switch, very useful for my notes. Between your and gummowned’s insights, I think I have enough information to decide on what I need to order (prolly not I always forget something). I thinking about using 30 guage wire for wiring duties, should I consider something a lil thicker?

Ill be busy at work for the rest of week, so no need to fear more long posts and multitudes of questions, prolly small ones here or there. Thank you again, take care

I don’t think gummowned has announced his latest and greatest officially just yet lol… shhh!!

paewang is a pcb ripped out of a joystick that does both wired 360 and ps3… the key here is the 360 emulation… somehow they’ve managed to circumvent or emulate xbox security (theres a reason why there isnt a flood of 3rd party 360 controllers, or a dualstrike/cthulu with 360 support)… the quad mod is a long work in progress… my friend wrapped his stick in 3m carbon fiber vinyl and looks pretty sick… we’re both kinda slow getting around to doing stuff though…

30 gauge is much easier to manage when you have tons of wires going everywhere… cause you can easily twist or braid them together and it looks neater…

Ok that makes sense as to why I couldnt find more info. I think Ill start ordering all the other essential parts I will be needing, like the case, stick, buttons, arc-eyes, mcc, switches, jacks, ect and wait for all those to get here, and wait to order the pcbs last so maybe by then his latest and greatest will be ready (not opposed to paying for a beta board to help test when it available) and maybe the masterstike remix (is it still being considered / worked on?) or other possible solutions.

Ok that makes sense. Ive used my x-arcade (sighs i kno) for quite some time, but only just recently did they unveil a 360 solution. Previous solutions was to spend $100 bucks for a sniper-x (mainly used for hooking up a kb+mouse to the 360) in which it would read the key stored on the 360 controller chip and store it and then use that to interface with the usb devices. The new solution is a similar concept using a piggy back adapter that you have to plug the 360 controller into. You also lose use of the home button and its a messy entanglement of wires. Its time to grow up and complete my rite of passage by build a real stick with jap parts in a more elegant form factor. Try playing with a two-player x-arcade box on your lap for a couple hours and forget taking that to tourns and stuff.

Vinyl is a versitle material. I worked in a sign shop for a while that did small and large format signs for adverts, vechiles, buildings, ect. One could do many things with vinyl and its very durable. I hope your friend used cast vs calendared(cheap) vinyl. In the long run calendared will shrink leaving the layer of adhesive exposed and is difficult with curves. If anyone is curious, the most ideal solution for a wrap would be 3M comply (cast) vinyl with top poly carb laminate layer (this is used to wrap most vehicles entirely). This can be attained from most sign shops and most of the time can be cut exactly how you want it for people who want to use templetes and not cut it out by hand.

Either way that sounds like an interesting, unique and exciting project you guys are working on, and wish you the best of luck with it!

No, work has stalled because masterstrike sales arent that high… its a bit of a hard core product and not novice friendly… thats the achilles heel…
What IvIePhisto did showed the true potential of the masterstrike, but his skill level is a few steps above mine and everyone elses lol…
So for now masterstrike is a simple on/off switching device… 32teeth is working on something good that will work on arc-eyes but probably wont be out for a while…

FYI I will be gone most of October to get married, so anyone who wants arc eyes soon should email me soon…

Hmm… it was meant for automotive use… two wrap a hood or spoiler… so he figured if its built for car application, its durable enough for joystick… lol

Thank you for the information, sorry I missed the post before as I was replying to others.

Hard core baby! I dunno one could say that I am novice, altho I have worked on installing mod chips and fixing consoles here and there. Went to school for computer science, but Im primarily an artist/designer for websites, webapps like vBulletin and also various 3D engines (UE3) with a day job cooking at Outback Steakhouse. I can also program too; lmfao but prolly not nearly as good as you guys! But I love technology and learning new things like all this hardcore modding stuff. I love the thrill of the challenge. Yeah its all intimidating at times, but thas also what pulls me too it. I just wish there a lot more others out there like me willing to give your hardcore products a try, so you may see a better return on investment and make even better stuff for us to play with. :slight_smile:

Im not familar with IvIePhisto’s but will definitely look it up shortly. I have seen a lot of 32 LED array programing stuff using different chips, and man those are very sweet. I respect all you gentlemen (and others not currently participating in this discussion, Toodles Ben and others comes to mind) tremendously for pioneering advancement in these areas. Years ago no one would have to put leds in or mod a fightstick in the way we are much, and now it only seems skys the limit. I only expect that this field of modding fight sticks to grow exponentially as the fighting game genre is really starting to pick up steam again and the demand for sticks continues to grow…

Well congratulations!!! Thanks for the heads up, I need to confer with my funds tomorrow after my check gets deposited. If within budget, I will definately place my order very soon to get those out of the way and start testing LEDs

Very nice! Should be very kick ass, as the only sticks with carbon fiber type graphics I seen, is usually behind plexi or a portion usually just the top panel, which kind of destroys the illusion IMHO. Now a full wrap is something to get excited about. Cant want to see a work in progress!

no seriously I want LEDS :smiley:

Thanks, but I wouldn’t say that :wtf: Hooking everything up took hours and gallons of sweat :looney: And bencao74 helped with some suggestions regarding the wiring :tup:

i seem to be always ‘working’ on something.
this time around it will be released into the wild.

teaser… …(this is not the device, only the code that will be running on the device)
[media=youtube]ivobJ14zTSo[/media]

it’s called Sparky.
here is one of the 3 footprints that will be available.

http://www.fakesite.com/UPLOADS/SparkyTeaser.png

It will be release under Creative Commons… …which mean you can do whatever you want with it! it has an FTDI header, which mean you can create your own custom code, or add to the provided library.

The device employs a Common Anode Jumper, which allows the code to determine if you are using common cathode (no jumper) or common anode (with jumper) RGB LEDS.

More Soon! Promise!

Very sexy… i still dont get how the multiplexing works… so if its 11 wires only to the LEDs, whats between the wires and LEDS on the protoboard to stop all reds from lighting up at the same time for example?

You need to manufacture and sell this!

That sounds very promising, 32teeth. What do you mean with FTDI header?

There is a provision on the board (bottom left) for the 6 pin header. You can then use any USB - FTDI programmer (is use an USB-BUB USB BUB Board | Modern Device)

plug it in and reprogram the chip as required

@purplearms
some people refer to multiplexing as charlieplexing. the wiki for charlie provides a decent description
Charlieplexing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

easiest way to understand

if pin 1 HIGH and 2 is LOW LED1 is on
if pin 1 LOW and 2 is HIGH, LED2 is on

example with rgb

http://www.fakesite.com/UPLOADS/charlie.png

Think about replacing the FTDI header with a USB interface and installing a bootloader for firmware update like on the Dual Strike :wink: And personally I would use transistors or switches like 4066Ns to power the LEDs, or you have to check the maximum current the pins can take…

agreed on the USB interface, using rs232 for serial.

by default, the current code has 8 default modes (one for each color and one for off) as well leveraging the eeprom, there is a custom program builder. ie: pick a color for every input, single, ex, throw, focus, taunt… …etc. and lastly, detection for 6 or 8 input. the program adjusts itself to what you have plugged in.

hope that helps explain a little. additionally, the less chips, the lower the cost.

i appreciate the comments and inputs, it’s what this community is about.

the original idea came from something similar to the midi fighter (Midi Fighter)

@ 32teeth

/drools

wow some very nice stuff! im actually considering holding off on the masterstike at the momment, and exploring other options or might just get it and upgrade/try some thing out like in the future…do you think if initially started with a masterstike would it difficult to migrate that setup to something like this in the future? I could one add a stick or other buttons to this setup? Midi Fighter is bad ass, saw before was thinking about helping my brother mod his mpc-2000 into something like that with a custom case, until it dawned on me that all the pads (16) are all analog :confused:

thanks for the comment shin, i will eventually start a thread for sparky.
just to be clear, this is NOT a replacement for masterstrike, dual strike, chimp or anything else. it should be considered a backpack or piggyback.
Purplearms, Gummowned, and Toodles and others have done a great amount of work for the community

purplearms and i actually live and work in the same city. and he has been awesome in response time. like i would ask for some arceyes or a masterstrike in the morning and walk over a few block and pick it up.

as per the direction these things are going in, i would recommend going through the beginning portion of this thread or take a look at my flickr
FightStick SE RMX - a set on Flickr

(just trying to bring this back to the thread topic) :slight_smile:

@shinmessiah: Masterstrike was really born out of the need to be able to switch power on and off to various devices (I planned on making a joystick with a LED screen built into it) but it can also function as a basic LED controller, like iviphisto and 32teeth have shown… even toodles FGWidget is not bad, although it only controls 8 channels of 1 color x 8 buttons (masterstrike only controls up to 6 channels but can be hacked to control 8)… so if you’re patient enough, 32teeth’s project has the potential to control 24 channels (3 colors x 8 buttons)

@32teeth: you can link to your new thread here :wink: Looking at your explanation of the multiplexing, it appears that the colors are individually controlled, so we wouldnt be able to combine to make secondary colors like yellow or magenta? i was gonna put masterstrike on my te-s megatron stick (currently modded with teasy and dualstrike and arc-eyes) but i would be more than happy to be a guineapig for sparky :wink:

Wow. The ability to control all 3 RGB LEDs individually? Sounds interesting. And sounds like a crapload of wiring! Love to see the results.

Finally got my arc-eye/masterstrike/leo mashup completed. Hopefully I can do some pictures tonight.