Anchor jill with madbeast

[NonSexualRice]

Lol @ Self importance

Implying you haven’t said someones a “bad Jill” over and over in the same thread? Get over yourself.
You also said that the person lacks Jill knowledge when it’s clearly evident it’s YOU who lacks jill knowledge?
Prove yourself to know absolutely NOTHING about the character?

how rich.I’m so terrible that your friend got scared when I asked him for his username.

I’ve played him countless times on Xbox. Like he has said earlier, he doesn’t have a PS3. You lack reading Comprehension don’t you? I understand why Sincere left the thread, hell I should do the same thing but For now I’ll entertain you. You obviously lack high level play at this game and lack high level information on Jill, which you have displayed throughout this whole thread.

Last I checked, you didn’t even think this was up for discussion or didn’t want to discuss it yet here you are trying to belittle me and tell me what’s what with no actual backing. “Well Sincere makes a good point” What good point is that?

Because I couldn’t believe that someone was stupid enough to even think Jill doesn’t get zoned out on anchor easily. Ended up re-reading thread and noticing your large moments of stupidity.

Jill can’t get past Disrupters/plasma beams/Flame Carpets/Gamma waves? LOL the most basic of things and you don’t know how to get past them. Last I checked no one invited you or mentioned you in this thread, not even sure why you’re here when you have added nothing but “well I say this so it is so”

No, she can’t. You showing a stupid video of putting a training mode dummy doing the same action (at the same speed, Lol @ doing it yourself to match your own speed. Your opponent IS NOT YOU IN A REAL MATCH). You clearly did not show anything in the video, at all. All you showed was Jill jumping around, without your opponent Creating any distance between the two.

YOUR VIDEO DID NOT SHOW HER BEATING FLAME CARPET AT ALL. IN THE SLIGHTEST. Infact, she got pushblocked, in the span of all that, a Dorm player has enough time to charge all his necessary spells. Lol @ the Gamma Wave nonsense. Even if Jill is able to Get in on hulk, she looses the hulk Matchup easily due to his large amount of superarmor.

Once again, Once Jill gets close, the hell is stopping her opponent from using one of the MANY moves that beats MGS?

Anyways for the rest of you, my main point is Jill isn’t zoned easily.

Yes, She is. Especially without assists. You showing Half-assed training mode shit that doesn’t happen in a real match isn’t proving anything. Even in your video, Jill is still being zoned out.

Unless someone wants to show me actual proof of a decent Jill getting zoned, I have proved my case.

If you can’t comprehend why a character with literally no projectiles and a character who needs 10 frames to teleport gets Zoned out I don’t know what to tell you. Showing you gameplay of a “decent Jill getting zoned”, will not change your stupidity.

Here’s a lil video for people who can’t get past Gamma waves. And although I didn’t show it jumping Disrupters is even easier than Down +M. All of this is easy to do on reaction meaning you can evade after you see them use an ability.

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How is that video Proving ANYTHING in the slightest? Hell, it’s literally you PUTTING ON DUMMY RECORD DOING THE SAME, ACTIONS DESPITE THE RANGE. THIS NEVER HAPPENS IN A MATCH. YOU WILL NEVER SEE A MORRIGAN PLAYER DOING THE SAME SOUL FIST DESPITE YOUR OPPONENTS RANGE. She’s STILL Getting zoned out, She’s STILL ass on anchor.

Now Let’s give you some leeway. Let’s say, through some odd wheel of fate Jill gets in on Magneto solo (Lol), wtf is stopping him from Shockwaving you away or Plink Dashing to the other side in less frames then it takes for Jill to reach him? Nothing. What is there stopping him from Zoning you out with Mag Blasts+ Plink Dashes? WTF is stopping Dorm from laying a carpet, charging a Spell and teleporting around your ass? Nothing.

Lol @ Terrible Morrigan Soul Fist lockdown, no opponent is going to be using the same Soul fists that easily, Have fun Beating Soul Fist lockdown when she has her Twin Sis out and Xfactor.
lol @ Terrible Moririgan Soul Fist Lockdown, going Half the speed NORMAL Morrigan Soul Fist lockdown is going
Lol @ showing terrible Magneto Lockdown. Oh hey, Let’s forget he can Magnetically Repulse you to the other side of the screen too!
lol @ your terrible arguments in this thread constantly being shot down.
Also Lol @ your terrible Jill combo, why the hell are you starting combos with s.L and doing j.MHS in the ai-oh wait, I forgot, you have a mediocre, half-assed Jill.

You are exactly what you call others. A “bad Jill”.

Jill is ass on Anchor. Period.

[NonSexualRice]

Right, because Morrigan is going to just do soul fists like that w/o Astral Vision, Magneto is just gonna sit there and throw disruptors, etc.

Sup dude, it’s been awhile. Please tell me I’m not the only one seeing the mass amounts of stupidity throughout this thread?

[Vothsair]

Right, because Morrigan is going to just do soul fists like that w/o Astral Vision, Magneto is just gonna sit there and throw disruptors, etc.

Morrigan wasn’t one I mentioned anywhere here and I was testing every character that can Zone. I simply put her there because I was going to add some text to the start of the video but decided I’ll just post it. She would most definitely be a problem for Jill as seen in the video if she used astral vision that would have been even worse since Jill has no flight. She’s probably the only one who would shut down Jill completely unless Jill gets lucky with a MGS and then she would require XF3 to cancel and to kill her. The point was how to avoid projectiles and not get zoned. Obviously there would be an actually player being careful and not spamming like the bot. It was a response to what Sincere said. He didn’t seem to know that simply jumping forward or inputting Down + M would avoid most of these. And of course MGS would do the trick for getting in and out aswell.Even as I told him he didn’t believe it.

@Rice You didn’t want in on the discussion or so you said and you’re still here. Not reading your crap anymore, try with someone who cares about you or your issues

Quoted from sincere
Please tell me how Your going to get in from a full screen distance Magneto Zoning with Disrupters? Machine gun Spray? Lolnope.
Please tell me how your going to get in from a full screen Distance Dormammu with Spells charged and Flame Carpet out? Machine Gun Spray? Lolnope.
Please tell me how your going to get in from a full screen distance Rocket Raccoon Zoning you with Traps? Machine Gun Spray? Lolnope.
Please tell me how your going to get in from a FULL SCREEN HULK, Zoning you with Gamma wave? Machine gun Spray? Lolnope.

[Captain_Planet]

Lols at that Doom zoning. I’m sorry, I saw this on the recently active threads and clicked it for fun. I’ve only tinkered with Jill and am by no means a “good” Jill, but as a pretty competent (IMO) Doom, that was some of the worst “zoning” I have ever seen.

[NonSexualRice]

Morrigan wasn’t one I mentioned anywhere here and I was testing every character that can Zone. I simply put her there because I was going to add some text to the start of the video but decided I’ll just post it. She would most definitely be a problem for Jill as seen in the video if she used astral vision that would have been even worse since Jill has no flight. She’s probably the only one who would shut down Jill completely unless Jill gets lucky with a MGS and then she would require XF3 to cancel and to kill her. The point was how to avoid projectiles and not get zoned. Obviously there would be an actually player being careful and not spamming like the bot. It was a response to what Sincere said. He didn’t seem to know that simply jumping forward or inputting Down + M would avoid most of these. And of course MGS would do the trick for getting in and out aswell.Even as I told him he didn’t believe it.

So woah woah woah woah, while Jill originally has the better neutral game on point with Assists against Morrigan on point, due to Jill already having momentum at the start of a match and Morrigan NEEDING momentum at the start of a match she turns into a worse matchup…Are you trying to tell me Jill gets BAD Matchups that weren’t originally BAD on ANCHOR? Lol.

@Rice You didn’t want in on the discussion or so you said and you’re still here. Not reading your crap anymore, try with someone who cares about you or your issues

VothSair on me Telling him the Truth- LALA I’M NOT LISTENING.

Quoted from sincere
Please tell me how Your going to get in from a full screen distance Magneto Zoning with Disrupters? Machine gun Spray? Lolnope.
Please tell me how your going to get in from a full screen Distance Dormammu with Spells charged and Flame Carpet out? Machine Gun Spray? Lolnope.
Please tell me how your going to get in from a full screen distance Rocket Raccoon Zoning you with Traps? Machine Gun Spray? Lolnope.
Please tell me how your going to get in from a FULL SCREEN HULK, Zoning you with Gamma wave? Machine gun Spray? Lolnope.

Does it matter if I’m still here? I’m debating your nonsensical pure crap arguments.

You didn’t even get in on magneto. You used the Same Disrupter, Set it Exactly to your speed and reacted to YOUR Speed. Unless your opponent is yourself, this isn’t really happening due to the fact that a Magneto can easily change which disrupter he uses.
You didn’t even get in on DORMAMMU. You Pushblocked the flame carpet which pushed you back. What the hell did that prove? Not only that, but while you were struggling, A dormammu could have been charging enough spells to kill your ass, hit you with his Self 50/50 Teleport to the other side, Fly and Charge spells,etc.
You didn’t prove or even show anything with Rocket Raccoon, I wonder why (Oh wait I know why!)
Your gamma waves aren’t even TIGHT enough to even be considered as “zoning”. Probably due to your mediocre execution.

Jumping Forward isn’t really getting you past any of this. In best situations it’s literally delaying the inevitable. Your execution terrible, and your video just stregthens the original argument that Jill is ass on anchor. Magneto+Doom’s+RR’s+Morrigan’s Mobility without assists and Zoning game> Jill.

First two days back and this is the shit I see? God damn SRK, what happened

For Christ’s sake, every single argument you have tried to come up with throughout this whole thread has been shot down. As Sincere said, Research before you Post please.

Also, All that video did was prove Everyone’s point of Jill being ass on anchor. Finger Lazer’s and Full Screen Plasma Beam+ Tridash and Flight> Jill.

[Vothsair]

Lols at that Doom zoning. I’m sorry, I saw this on the recently active threads and clicked it for fun. I’ve only tinkered with Jill and am by no means a “good” Jill, but as a pretty competent (IMO) Doom, that was some of the worst “zoning” I have ever seen.

Maybe because it was a bot? Doom would prob fly up in the air and spam laser fingers. It was a response to how do I get in on full screen with plasma beams. I’m simply showing you how to avoid them on reaction. Because apparently it’s so hard to do and apparently ready too.

[NonSexualRice]

Maybe because it was a bot? Doom would prob fly up in the air and spam laser fingers. It was a response to how do I get in on full screen with plasma beams. I’m simply showing you how to avoid them on reaction. Because apparently it’s so hard to do and apparently ready too.

YOUR still not getting in on Doom, you were just Barely avoiding Chip from the same Plasma Beam. Nothing is stopping Doom from going in Flight mode and Flying to the other side of the screen and doing the same.damn.thing.

Just to end this damn argument because I hate dealing with Dumbasses, Jill is a terrible anchor because some of her GOOD matchups on point turn to BAD matchups on anchor.

[Vothsair]

@Rice if you wanna have a discussion that’s cool. But if attention is what you’re seeking then look elsewhere. Leave the your issues and your insults out if you ever want a response from me. If not I don’t really care.

[Mr.Unbrockable]

People play Jill in this game?

[NonSexualRice]

I’m not implying anything. You are a bad Jill .

Implying this isn’t an insult.

@Rice if you wanna have a discussion that’s cool. But if attention is what you’re seeking then look elsewhere. Leave the your issues and your insults out if you ever want a response from me. If not I don’t really care.

Still no video of Jill doing 26 reps. Keep getting zoned by Gamma wave, scrub.

Implying this isn’t an insult.

Pot calling kettle black syndrome ftw.

[Vothsair]

I must be the best part of your day. I responded like that after you insulted me. It’s not the type of convo I want to have. All I’m saying if want to discuss anything now or in the future leave your drama out. Just look at how you respond now… it’s up to you in the end. You can’t seem to get enough of me.

[Sincere_1]

Oh god this thread is too funny. Thank god I Stopped responding and put this guy on Ignore.

[NonSexualRice]

I must be the best part of your day. I responded like that after you insulted me. It’s not the type of convo I want to have. All I’m saying if want to discuss anything now or in the future leave your drama out. Just look at how you respond now… it’s up to you in the end. You can’t seem to get enough of me.

This is pathetic. So let me get this straight, you can insult other SRK Members, but when one comes, proves all your shit wrong, and calls you out you “don’t want to be insulted?”

Pot calling kettle black syndrome ftw.

[Vothsair]

Actually he didn’t prove anything in his first post and he insulted me on first reply. His attitude was Hostile from the start. On zoning topic I tell him he can simply jump and he tries to fight me with I’m not going to get closer with a simple jump and you’ll take chip damage which isn’t the case. I even asked him for his username so I can show him that Magneto/Dorm (this is what he plays) will never zone Jill and again he’s thinks this is a battle and insults me (much like you). It’s not that I don’t want to be insulted, it just takes away from the actual discussion and really you’re getting nowhere when you don’t have a clear head and all you’re thinking about is being right. And it was bad on my part to insult him and I prob should have stopped replying to him. If anyone wants to try and zone my Jill with anyone other than Morrigan I encourage you. Leave your PSN username. I’ll address your post later if you want, but if you seriously continue with this hostility, you won’t be getting any reply. Cheers.

[NonSexualRice]

She is not terrible. She doesn’t get lamed out easily, you obviously don’t know how to get in. She can teleport/slide/dash cancel/Roundhouse cancel into teleport or frame advantage. She has all the tools she just needs practice and they shouldn’t be able to push block you. Machine gun spray is invincible it doesn’t lose to anything unless you do it when the beam is in your face when you hit the input. You would waste that meter when you’re stuck on guard stun because Vergil has spiral swords and has you locked down or Magneto with drones has you locked down or Spencer with arrows has you locked down or Wolverine with Akuma has you locked down. Not only do you get out of their setup safely but you deal damage and build back meter. Is that not good enough for you? Mad beast is great if you really wanna get lamed out. Although I haven’t really put much effort into learning it, so take lightly what I say about it.

Lol what? Besides this post being riddled with wrong information, you insult his gameplay and say he “obviously doesn’t know how to get in”, which was completely irrelevant and still *wrong. *

Actually he didn’t prove anything in his first post and he insulted me on first reply. His attitude was Hostile from the start. On zoning topic I tell him he can simply jump and he tries to fight me with I’m not going to get closer with a simple jump and you’ll take chip damage which isn’t the case. I even asked him for his username so I can show him that Magneto/Dorm (this is what he plays) will never zone Jill and again he’s thinks this is a battle and insults me (much like you). It’s not that I don’t want to be insulted, it just takes away from the actual discussion and really you’re getting nowhere when you don’t have a clear head and all you’re thinking about is being right. And it was bad on my part to insult him and I prob should have stopped replying to him. If anyone wants to try and zone my Jill with anyone other than Morrigan I encourage you. Leave your PSN username. I’ll address your post later if you want, but if you seriously continue with this hostility, you won’t be getting any reply. Cheers.

FFS, you either blind or retarded. I’m going to assume retarded. Not only did I already prove that you insulted him first (ffs, you said he has no clue how to get in), YOU BRING UP PSN. WHEN I HAVE TOLD YOU MANY TIMES THAT I.PLAY.ON.XBOX.

Your lameass video showed absolutely nothing. Infact it proved that Dorm’s flame carpet destroys jill. Do I NEED to really bring up the reasons why your video was terrible again?

It’s like you don’t read anything ANYONE writes.

Stop being wrong all the time. Magneto and Dorm BOTH.ZONE.JILL.OUT.SOLO. It’s REALLY not that hard of a concept.

I give you MANY reasons why they both zone Jill out, I give you MANY reasons why Jill is ass on anchor, and I give you MANY reasons why your video doesn’t prove shit. What do you reply with? Some stupid ass “STOP INSULTING ME POST” that just shows how much of a hypocritical poster you are.

I’ve been trying to entertain your dumbass posts, but Frankly I’m tired of this stupid runaround. Time and time and again you display amateur and terrible advice that no one should take. Despite you telling people “HURR DURR if your getting zoned out by this and that your a bad Jill” I can garauntee you that I’ve developed more technology for Jill valentine then you can even comprehend. I can gaurantee your fraud ass, that I have worked on shit that you can’t comprehend.

And finally, I can gaurantee your ass that YOU are a terrible Jill player. Not me, Not Bouncing, Not anyone else, Just you.

[lamuness]

Sup dude, it’s been awhile. Please tell me I’m not the only one seeing the mass amounts of stupidity throughout this thread?

Haha, well, when someone makes a thread like this, there’s bound to be stupidity, even though the OP’s intent was probably quite honest. Oh well, you know?

[NonSexualRice]

Haha, well, when someone makes a thread like this, there’s bound to be stupidity, even though the OP’s intent was probably quite honest. Oh well, you know?

Gotta agree. The OP and everyone up to This Vorthsair guy was pretty fine, but then he comes spouting some stupid bullshit about Jill not getting zoned out on anchor and any jill getting zoned out is “bad”.

Well, to the OP, Jill is best played on Point with two assists. On anchor, She doesn’t have the best options to escape Welcome mixups, can’t deal with zoning Solo, and it turns some of her decent and good matchups into bad ones.

Mad beast itself is pretty godlike. I think the first time I vsed BouncingPippins, I caught him in one and he was stunned haha. Mad Beast is good because it gives jill more mobility, tri-dash pressure,and more options. HOWEVER, The only thing your going to be doing in it is comboing since being only able to block low limits your options.

A Madbeast Combo in itself can build upwards to 2 bars and some change

[Yeah_Dood_120]

That zoning video was hilarious… dood!

[Vothsair]

That zoning video was hilarious… dood!

Hah thanks it was more to show how to avoid those projectiles. Now you making me feel embarrassed lol.

[NonSexualRice]

That zoning video was hilarious… dood!

brb uploading Ryu doing hadokens and Haggar jumping over them.

Haggar now doesn’t get zoned out omgwtf