Ridley Scott shat the bed big time. First with Prometheus and then even worse with Covenant. It’s SciFi shlock at his finest. And there’s no point in making another because the train has gone off the tracks so badly, that it’ll never “connect” with Alien. Which is the whole point of these shitty prequels. It’s basically an alternate universe by this point.
I’ve no interest in seeing another one of Scott’s cinematic abortions. What’s left of the story isn’t even salvageable.
Can’t wait for the third Alien prequel! :tup:
Covenant flopped HARD too. After the budget of the movie itself, plus marketing, etc. They were LUCKY to break even. What fox exec in his right mind would green-light another one of these turkeys?
They should do like Terminator Genisys and shelve this garbage.
But another Terminator is coming lol
tbf the only problem with Genisys is that the casting for Kyle Reese was pure unforgiven trash, fucking Brolly out here, and the story of John Connor becoming a Terminator was kinda a dumb kick in the chucks, the movie would have been better served if Skynet itself came back in order to preserve itself and end the paradox.
Other than that, it was a really good sci fi movie and near worthy to be a proper sequel to T2.
We should all listen to your refined -ebola- taste
IMO Genisys focused on the wrong story, they did a remake of the first movie that nobody asked for, when instead they should have told the Logan-esque story that they hinted at happening. Also, Khaleesi was a terrible choice for Sarah Conor.
I saw it up on iTunes and said "cool! It’s ready to rent! It won’t be that bad at $4.99!"
Then I saw $19.99, a greyed-out ‘Rent’ button and said…“shit, oh well…how bad can it be??”
I made a $15 mistake…
My stupid shit is why they’ll make more of these movies. Dumb shmucks who won’t wait for rental (or abstain in good judgement).
For better or worse, the David trilogy must be completed. Yes it is flawed, but the show must go on.
I think and hope we will get Ridley’s origins story - something he want to explore since the first movie.
It’s the only reason to watch any more.
I disagree about “must be completed”. A figurative ton of far better media hasn’t gotten the sequels they “deserved” just because they also lost money, which is what it ultimately comes down to regardless of quality.
Similarly, the argument of “well, either Ridley Scott gets to conclude (fucking up) his own prequel trilogy or FOX gets to come in a reboot the Alien franchise” comes off as similarly false since there’s a third, more sensible option of just leaving the franchise the fuck alone for a while. Granted, that’s obviously not going to be chosen given since when has mankind ever gone with supposedly “common sense” and since when has it ever not given into short-sightedness and greed, but that option does exist rather than being forced to pick between two evils.
Even for the people who do want to see this finished for whatever reason, which I vaguely understand, I think pretty much everyone agrees that Ridley Scott should take slightly more time and get his shit together before he makes the third movie. I mean, he supposedly wants to make six more movies about this? Haha. Nice joke.
At the very least, the guy clearly needs to be reigned in and take sometime to think about what worked and what (horribly) failed since even he’s probably not delusional enough at this point to realize he’s not going to get more than one more shot at this, especially given how much he apparently misread what he thought people found wrong with Prometheus.
Honestly, if we’re rooting for utterly low standards now as far as Ridley Scott goes, then him being able to write an Alien prequel movie where all the characters aren’t completely fucking idiotic would unfortunately be a huge step up from what we’ve gotten inflicted upon us thus far.
(This reminds me quite literally the worst argument I’ve seen so far for Covenant’s quality was a Youtube one on the Honest Trailers commentary for it that claimed that the characters needed to be as fucking stupid as they were to advance the plot. No…that’s just lazy, bad writing, especially since all of these characters are supposedly “smart”.)
The prequel trilogy was conceived as a 3 part story from the get go. We are not discussing the quality of the films, only the fact that the narrative must fulfill its potential. Not completing the David trilogy does more damage to the canon than doing the third film.
Ridley deserves his film, and believe it or not many people loved Covenant and Prometheus. They are just not as loud as the detractors.
Also, regarding your argument of stupid characters - All Characters in the franchise for the most part have been foolish starting with the very first one Kane. The only difference now is that the Audience knows what to expect but from an in universe perspective the rules havent changed. New character confronting new realities that can equally fascinate and arouse their curiousity yet still be incredibly stupid in retrospect.
The writing couldve been better but remove your nostalgia glasses. Aside from Alien3, much of the characters and their dialogue in the franchise has been caricatures and stereotypes. The worst offenders being the cast of Aliens.
Genisys wasn’t bad, what fucked it up was them ruining the John Connor reveal, in the damn trailers. Then they spend 3/4 of the movie asking all these questions, but never answering fuck all. You never find out who sent Pops, and Matt Smith only shows up for 2 seconds.
Fuck these Alien disasters, just give me a proper AvP that doesn’t take place on Earth.
Ripley is one of the only characters with any fucking sense in the entire franchise.
The original trilogy was about Ripley bringing an end to the Alien species. The prequel trilogy is about David bring them (back?) into existence. It’s a great dichotomy and I am happy it is this way. There is something very morbid about Ridley killing offf every potential Ripley-esque character. It’s like he is saying, there is no Ripley but Ripley, watch me tear this wannabes apart.
The David trilogy narratively is an excellent parallel to Ripley’s story, sort of a dark mirror of the original story. Ripley wants to save the universe, and David wants to destroy it. It’s a perfect idea with an imperfect execution.
Fuck ya’ll who want Aliens 2. You are the very reason why we can’t have nice things. Go watch AvP and jerk off.
No one here said they wanted Aliens, that’s you lashing out for a hand hold to grasp onto.
They said they wanted an intelligent story with smart characters. Neither of these movies fit either of these qualities.
It’s fine if you like two stupid movies, or even if you can look past the stupid and see some.of the smart, but it’s dumb to expect others to ignore all the problems just because you.like the few smart moments in these movies.
I still think when that bitch was blasting the gun at those fuel tanks in the ship in Covenant is one of the best scenes in all of the Alien movies. I lost my shit in the theater I was laughing so hard. Some straight up Looney Tunes level entertainment right there. So fucking good.
You forgot Hicks and Bishop, but we forgive you.
That’s about it though.
Heheh:
It’s essential to close the loop. Without that closure, all of the prequels will mean nothing.
I agree with everything up to this. This last line is bullshit. I still think blomkamp wouldn’t have fucked up as much as you assumed that he would.
And um…Screw you for telling me to wank to that pile of shit called AvP 