(Sigh.)
I apologize in advance for the amount of bold used, but given how intentionally obtuse Daemos is being despite refusing to agree to disagree, I feel that I have to even if I already know it wouldn’t convince him. I just don’t like my intentions getting twisted when they should be easy to understand.
I am aware of that this was meant to be a trilogy, as I have been for a while. That doesn’t really change my mind at all, especially given it’s rather arguable that the prequels as a whole have already done more to derail and countermand previously established canon to the point that a third movie wouldn’t be able to fix it or, worse, make it even worse. To say nothing of the fact that I personally find the idea that he wants six more movies utterly laughable, especially at this point.
Again, we have to disagree here on that first sentence–a lot. I’m not even saying anything about Ridley as a director overall. I’m just saying that, at the very least, he should probably think slightly more about the third movie than he probably is given what became of Covenant and it’s probably better if he just outright stops in my personal opinion.
As for the rest of it, I have never said that some people don’t like Covenant and Prometheus. I just pointed out that a) the majority of people don’t and b) that this directly affected the amount of money both earned given poor word of mouth & bad reviews and c) thus affects the likelihood of the third movie getting made at all, “deserved” or not, given that money and profit is basically all the movie studios tend to care about because capitalism. That really shouldn’t be as difficult to understand as you seem to make it.
Uh…what? Now you’re back to not even making sense, especially since you’re basically continuing to argue against something I’m not even arguing as crotchapuncha already pointed out. I never I wanted another Aliens, not that I would mind admittedly so long as it’s, you know, good. I similarly never said that there were never stupid decisions in any of the other Alien movies because of course there were, especially in Aliens.
The difference, which you’re seemingly intentionally failing to grasp repeatedly, is that in the older movies, characters were usually called out on their stupidity in-movie by other characters whereas in the newer movies, everyone is a fucking moron, which thus makes this impossible because the writing is lazy and bad. You specifically bring up Aliens in your continuing to hate on it, which would be fine yet still annoying if you were making actually valid points, despite the fact that you ignore that Ripley in-movie literally tells them several times that the whole thing is a bad idea. That they get fucked up is because, guess what, they ignore that sound advice. At least, however, that advice was a) given in-movie by a character and b) the in-story reasons that it was ignored aren’t based solely on stupidity, with her getting ignored in part due to the ignorance & arrogance of the space marines and in part due to Burke being an asshole who was ready to sacrifice everyone else anyway. After everything goes to shit in the initial ambush in Aliens, the “caricatures and stereotypes” as you call them at least try intelligent tactics; it’s just they can’t keep up with the onslaught, in part due to (greatly) outnumbered and in part due to, again, one of their own constantly sabotaging them.
Sure, when it comes to sabotage, in Covenant you can say David fucking them over is a legitimate handicap, even if pretty much everyone except the idiots in-movie saw the switch coming and even if there was no really good valid reason to trust him as much anyway to begin with. Even with the David-handicap, that really doesn’t change the fact that pretty much everyone else in the cast, in both Prometheus and Covenant, is a stone-cold moron who never does anything intelligent; hell, in Covenant, they do several extremely stupid things before David even shows up apparently. In fact, the cast of both repeatedly commit such basic fuck-ups despite being caricatures of supposedly smart scientists that it would be legitimately insulting to mentally handicapped people to call these worthless characters “retarded”; it’s even worse, actually, that you’re reducing Aliens to “stereotypical” characters when the stereotypical scientist is supposed to be smarter than stereotypical soldier and yet Prometheus & Covenant vs. Aliens is a horrible inversion of that since Hicks and Vasquez were at least smart. I mean, for starters, do we really need to go over the atmosphere issue in here again?
All this pseudo-intellectual bullshit gets extremely tiresome and falls utterly flat when the newer movies can’t even accurately portray how people of average intelligence would act in these situations, much less characters who are supposed to all be of above average intelligence yet act like they have a collective IQ that doesn’t even break the double-digits.
I would legitimately enjoy an intellectual Alien movie that actually asks interesting questions even if the cast was flat was it in these past two movies. The problem is that these are not them and the cast has been abominable on top of that. It’s really difficult to carry about the plot for something, especially if it’s supposedly full of “fascinating” queries, when you can’t give a xenomorph’s ass about any of the characters involved, in large because they’re killing themselves off in the most stupid, easily avoidable ways and taking the most frustratingly dumb options repeatedly at every single decision point.
