This movie was stupid to me. I suppose it was for fans of the series. Everyone except for that mean lady, Idris Elba, and the copilots acted really dumb.
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[details=Spoiler]Btw, I don’t necessarily think answering questions about the previous movies (I’m assuming you mean “What was the Space Jockey?” and “Where do little aliens come from?”) makes this movie better. It’s like a magician revealing his tricks. The Alien series was already becoming more and more about people wanting to study them to use them as weapons and now it turns out that’s actually how they started? Please. Even David talks about how disappointing it would be to hear your creators’ lame explanation of the reason why they made you. It’s almost like the film was mocking its own premise with that line.
Then another point you bring up that supposedly makes this movie better is that they set up a sequel? Having too many sequels is what was wrong with the franchise in the first place. Besides, setting up a sequel is pretty easy. A lot easier than coming up with a solid ending.[/details]
I saw it the other day and thought it was interesting. It was very slow and nothing much happened it seemed. It was good, I felt like I was there and should be running with the crew in fear. There were some real nasty scenes, lots of slime and tentacles. A lot of questions also. I will never see this movie again, but I might watch a little bit of it if it shows up on TNT in a few years.
I’d give the movie a 8/10
Now its time to watch Alien and Aliens.
I liked it but the plot holes bothered me a bit. Best thing about the movie was the CG work. Everything was so disgustingly crisp (saw it in 2D) and clean and nasty and wet and slimey and organic and rough and dusty, etc. You’ll love the visual effects work in the movie.
A person lets two people die on a billion dollar mission to have sex…
And people are saying this is a good movie?!?!?!?
I take it you just watched it since your post at the top of this page? XD
I feel awesome coming to this thread, cause now I can read all the spoiler tags.
Also checking out your rants, good reads.
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No, having BAD sequels hurt the franchise.
Everybody & their grandma wanted another Alien flick after the first two had turned out great.
Seen it yesterday. Thoroughly enjoyed it! I did watch Alien 1 (again) the night before. Felt that was a good thing to do.
I watched the movie again this time in 2D. IMAX 3D is still the way to go, you can’t really appreciate the attention to detail Ridley has put into this movie. Soundtrack didn’t seem as loud and obnoxious as it was in IMAX.
some thoughts
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I payed attention to the dates, they definitely arrived on schedule. David also displays awe when he see’s the planet and moon.
On first viewing I thought Charles (the boyfriend) came back to life and attacked everyone in the dock but it was the geologist, so we still do not know what would have happened to Charles if they had just quarantined him, but what happened to the geologist is a good indication (even though their level of infection is vastly different).
I thought Vickers was even better on second viewing, it’s a shame she got a stupid death. I still feel that the whole ending was poorly written, and the way Vickers died was to keep the pace of the movie frantic. Unfortunately it’s just comical.
Now onto my revelation, how I see the back story of the Engineers panning out.
Just before David wakes the engineer he explains to Elizabeth why they created us then tried to kill us “in order to create one must destroy”. At this point I’m at the conclusion that these Engineers in cyro sleep are creators the others that roamed the ship caring for the stockpile are destroyers. I think the reason why there were 4 cryo pods was for 4 destinations. The creators will kill themselves in the same manner as the one at the beginning.
The next thing I picked up on was that Elizabeth talks about faith, Weyland talks about death. When Weyland dies he says there is nothing, I think he is referring to there being no afterlife. I couldn’t help but think back to my previous thoughts about creators and destroyers, I’m now thinking that creation and destruction is the foundation of the Engineer’s religion. For the Engineers it could be two things, #1 their afterlife is passing their dna, they believe that they will be reborn this way or #2 this is their method of reproduction.
At this time I think #1 is the more likely, it would explain why the Engineer at the end tries to kill them, if they represent the afterlife small, weak and infantile it would be blasphemy.
In fact everything is about rebirth - destruction (killed or dismantling of dna), creation (reconstruction of dna or sex), repeat.
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What made the irish dude transform into a beast? Drinking that black shit that was going to transform Holloway into the same thing?
And did David put it into Holloways drink? If the point of the mission was to heal Weyland, what the fuck was David doing the whole movie? Poisoning Holloway, keeping the alien inside of Elizabeth? WHAT WERE HIS PRIORITIES?
What do you think David was doing for 2 years while everyone was sleeping?
Studying the Engineers.
Yes and yes
David
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Crew was most likely expendable, so David was probably following Weyland’s orders by gathering as much intel on the alien technology as possible. Unfortunately the didn’t have dna sequence predictor tool thingymabob so David dipped his finger in Charles’ drink to see what would happen. Elizabeth becoming pregnant was one of many probabilities David had already calculated.
Does anyone know what language David was learning on the ship?? It sounded very similar to the language he used to talk to the Engineer.
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It was Aramaic. As a movie buff he wanted to be able to enjoy The Passion of the Christ to the fullest.
Box office numbers are somewhat promising. I think it cost $120 Million and so far made $190 Million. Hollywood logic goes that the movie has to make 3 times it’s budget to make a profit (because the first weekend the studio takes like 90% of the gross while the theatres make 10% on the first weekend, 2nd weekend it’s more 40-60 and etc).
So yeah… Sequel is up in the air. Good job to Ridley Scott for not answering any important questions and setting the whole film up for a sequel.
Yeah, Ridley certainly raised many questions with Prometheus. Judging by the mixed opinions from the longtime Alien fans, there are definitely consequences. Whether this affects the chances of a sequel or not, one thing’s for certain: It’s been fun reading the numerous complaints and speculations that have been popping up.
I found Prometheus to be a good, not great, science fiction film. And that’s terrific, because today’s cinema is starved for both of those things.
I won’t try to contextualize it as some revelatory exploration of the human condition, because it doesn’t really try to do that. I think that’s what a lot of people are looking for, which is why they come out of it disappointed. What it does try to do is stake out a basic thesis and spin it into a decent action-horror yarn.
In that view, I thought it was modestly successful, even if it doesn’t have the stuff of excellence–a grand sweep, vivid characters, meticulous attention to detail, and so on.
]The thesis being that if we rush out to meet our makers, we have to be prepared for answers that defy our understanding, or, worse yet, answers that contradict our assumptions.
Maybe our makers don’t like how we turned out. Maybe they’d rather erase us and start over, like shaking away an Etch-A-Sketch doodle. Maybe they look at us with the same impassiveness with which we look upon our own creations, as reflected (rather baldly) in the crew’s aloof attitude toward their android crewmate.[/spoiler
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I did not watch any trailers and I avoided all the advance word, so I didn’t know anything about this movie–not even the most basic details of the premise–before I actually watched it. My only expectations were based upon the fact that this is a Ridley Scott science fiction movie, and that it was (or wasn’t!) set in the same storyline as the Alien movies.
[spoiler=]On that last subject, I have to wonder the final, brief snatch of a scene is Ridley Scott’s response to speculation that Prometheus is a prequel to Alien. The clip is completely extraneous, yet its presence makes Prometheus an Alien movie–just as its excision would make it not an Alien movie. Maybe it’s a choose-your-own-adventure teaser.
And with regard to speculation that the ending is a sequel hook, it is not necessarily so. The story ends with a human being once again blasting off to explore the mystery.
Of course, money talks, and in the event of a box office success, a sequel would be inevitable whether the ending left room for it or not. The American entertainment industry is no longer in the business of movies, so much as the business of sustainable brands.[/details]
Stop saying what I feel damn it. And even without that clip it’s still an Alien movie.