Saw it today, that movie had some pretty fucking Brutal moments. As someone who has only read some novels based on the Alien series, I found this to be a pretty good watch. Had fun making jokes about the silly things the cast did with my friends.
…then I came in here, and read the collected works of Bob Sagat, and realized that the movie had more holes then I remembered.
And I saw it like 8 hours ago.
I have to agree with Furious.
There was a lot of dialouge that was subliminal and meant a lot more than one gives thought to. It was funny watching the Engineer lose its shit (did you see it’s face?) when it saw Weyland. The more you think about the movie the better movie it actually is.
Or worse. They couldn’t even properly connect it to Alien and motherfucker yes that was the intent after Ridley’s baby was taken and reformed into this.
The movie overall was pretty good, though there were more questions introduced rather than answered. Felt a little detached from some of the characters, which is never good. The development wasn’t really sufficient beyond Shaw.
[details=Spoiler]I’ve only read the last page so bear with me if some of this has been addressed.
First I’d like to say that the Medipod may have been calibrated for males, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that Charlize was a man or that it was intended to be used on Whelan. It simply means that, as an emergency tool, it wasn’t intended for the use of female-specific surgeries such as a C-section especially considering the fact that it was kept in an escape pod on a space cruiser, somewhere a pregnant woman truly ought not be.
Secondly, I have to question what David’s motive for “drugging” Charlie and subsequently trying to keep the alien on board the ship in Shaw’s womb. He spoke the line “Doesn’t every child want their parents to die?” but he couldn’t have just meant Whelan if he was willing to go to those ends to do so. Did he have an agenda beyond simply following his “father’s” orders? Was he holding a grudge against mankind (which may or may not have been similar to the Engineers since we never truly know what he learned about them on his private excursions)? This could easily be masked given how he ordinarily communicated with humans - there was no real shift in his demeanor prior to exploring the planet - he was just programmed to be cold and robotic. Additionally, what the hell was the rest of the crew doing while he was exploring on his own and toying with the “WMD.” Not one question was asked of him, even by Vickers when he shut off his feed and here he is carrying some unknown container of substance onto a ship, and is never approached about where he’s been or what he’s seen.
This leads to my third issue, did David (and likely Whelan) know more about the planet and the “Engineers” than they chose to share? David somehow knew how to operate anything he came across (yes yes, he’s an android who’s dissected every language in existence), could analyze the black substance with a glance, and expected some sort of result from drugging Charlie. Subsequently, what did he say to the Engineer? Was it a mere translation of what Whelan told him to tell (which wasn’t specifically given away, he just said to tell him why he was there)? And did the Engineer respond to the message or simply to the fact that he recognized them as human and wanted to kill them for whatever reason they intended to wipe out humanity?
Lastly, why the fuck do people in movies not believe in lateral movement? I can run 100 yards ahead, or apparently roll to the side once. Which is the best option?
These were some of the points my friends and I brought up immediately after the movie, though there may have been more. I’m just tired and can’t think.
I can’t really see Shaw’s character carrying a sequel virtually on her own, though she does send out the transmission so that opens things up. In the end, while it wasn’t supposed to be a direct prequel, with a trailer as intense as the first (I know I know) I expected to be more on edge rather than puzzled. The most intense, thrilling scene was the surgery and almost nothing became of that - by the way, Shaw, how the fuck do you just forget to tell people that you just cut a fucking alien out of your uterus and left it in your host’s private quarters/the escape pod? Did that really just slip your mind?[/details]
[details=Spoiler]did they have to literally connect it to Alien’s? They told you who the space jokey’s are, and they told you what the xenomorph’s are. Just because its in the alien movie doesn’t mean that it has to be literally connected to alien. I’m starting to believe that the Xenomorph variant at the very end was just a nod to those who still hadn’t figured out that this was part of the Alien’s Universe, but it wasn’t going to lead up to alien’s and instead establish its own focus where if the Xenomorph’s did appear, they would be secondary rather than the main antagonizing force. I will say that it could perhaps have been written better, but over all I think it was a great movie.
Did anybody else notice that the architecture of the “Engineer’s” was similar to that of the hives built by the Xenomorph’s in other Alien movie’s? Hell it even look’s similar to that of the Yautja[/details]
can one of you guys elaborate please?
[details=Spoiler]david knew that the goo would mutate charlie. He knew that there where going to be severe consequences for what he was doing. Why?
Great thing’s have small beginnings.
Also Weyland knew there was going to be something on the planet. Why?
He even commanded Vick’s to try harder[/details]
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You’re welcome
openeing scene, maybe its not that important, maybe it is very important
when the engineer drank the liquid, he decomposed, and as you can see, he was disassembled down to the molecular level, any and all biological system’s where turned into dust. But, one strand does not disassemble, and instead it assembles into DNA again.
David - How far you willing to go
Charles - I’d do anything and everything
David - Well that sounds like something to drink to…
later - David says Doesn’t everyone dream of killing their parents
I still think he has been snooping through Vickers’ dreams, but like other things in the movie I could see their being a double mean.
Like the aliens born within the host, the host could be seen as parent which is killed by it’s offspring. And because there is an evolutionary process the host and alien share the same dna.
I’m thinking way too much about this movie lol, but I came to another conclusion.
I’m starting to think that the real method to destroying a species was to infect everything with the black substance. The infected species would go insane much like Charles and the geologist and kill each other off. However the creation of new a more dangerous species* through sex and cross breeding was a complete accident.
*shares none of the weakness of the parents and kills off both species.
It is very important, that’s us
Well worth the watch
My brother was telling me that this guy was in complete awe working with Ridley and Ridley was the architect for the script.
Here is the extended version, he talks about Prometheus 00:47:00 onward
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In regards to David’s motives and actions:
David
[details=Spoiler]David is supposed to be the first line of androids, is he not? Obviously there are going to be flaws in his programming. It’s really hard to tell what he is thinking throughout the whole film, possibly intentional or due to poor writing. Regardless, it’s pretty obvious that David has some sort of curiosity showing throughout the film. It’s difficult to tell what he’s really thinking since, well, he’s not supposed to be thinking about anything other than what he’s assigned to do, really.
If you guys remember back in Alien, Ash goes berserk and tries to kill Ripley. In Aliens, Bishop (or someone else, I forget) mentions that in his line of androids, some sort of emotion/violence inhibitor is installed to prevent androids from harming humans.
Point being, David’s programming is flawed, but no one really seems to notice it or know about it, which makes questioning his actions from the characters’ POV difficult. Except for the time where he cut off his feed from Vickers, no one really seems to suspect anything. Even then, everything is assumed to be fine and dandy once he came back to the ship and more or less reported what he had discovered (to Weyland, I assume). From a viewer’s POV, it’s probably safe to say that the flaw in his programming causes him to be curious about pretty much everything that happens once they reach the planet. If a sequel is ever made, I’m sure we’ll begin to see more into David’s “mind”.[/details]
It’s too early to look at the movie objectionally. A few things did stand out to me a lot though:
[details=Spoiler]The Space Jockey made a great monster.
The two unlikeable guys who die first: Why did the red haired guy come back? His face would have melted and he would have died. They should have found him like that and the zombie should have been the retarded biologist instead.
The movie is probably before Alien. The ship isn’t just a miner that happens to come across a warning. The technology is better because it has Weyland Yatani’s full budget.
The Xenomorph at the end: doesn’t tie into anything. I mean I already figured out that the engineers made them, so whatever.
Does this mean an invasion of Earth by xenomorphs can have a less convoluted plot now?[/details]
Also:
An error?
David was the most human out the entire crew.
There’s been much discussion, read from page 8 of this thread onwards
^^ Weird. Looks like a bird type xenomorph creature.Can see the head, beak, what appear like wings, etc.
“OMG! Its an angel!”
Veidt pointed out that we may have seen the origin of Starro the Conquerer. XD
(Site is often NSFW, it’s SFW for this article.)
I was reading the review on iheartchaos, the author points out how retarded the plot is when two scientists see some ancient art and immediately jump to the conclusion that these being created us, and manage to convince an old man to fork out a trillion dollars. But they cover this lack of logic by using faith as an excuse. Have to admit when it’s put like that it is rather retarded 
http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/24887875011/ihc-movie-reviews-prometheus-2012
It was a fun time at the movies, that’s for sure.
Someone on youtube replied to one of my comments, I thought it made a lot of sense.
“I think our creation was intentional, but our ability to create ourselves was not- the gift of fire that was stolen from Zeus.”
With or without any proof of the space jockeys being our creators, they still had evidence of intelligent lifeforms. I’d say that’s worth investing in.
For sure, but there should have been more scientific evidence to warrant a leap of faith and a trillion dollar investment
Someone on youtube also mentioned they think Weyland stole money out of his own company, this adventure bankrupts the company and the only way to save Weyland Industries is to merge with Yutani.
here’s another comment regarding the Engineers’ reasoning
[details=Spoiler]At the beginning of the movie, that dude drinks the black ooze, and he disintegrates and his DNA spreads out all through the water.
WHAT IF that dude was the “Engineers” equivalent of the egomaniacal and arrogant Peter Weyland, and he was doing that because he wanted to “immortalize himself” by seeding his own personal genetic material all over the earth? Basically making the entire planet a lasting tribute to him.
So the rest of the Engineers see what he’s done and create the weapon to wipe out the infestation that Mr. Arrogant Engineer created on the earth?
The rest of the Engineers, in effect, are trying to clean up Arrogant Guy’s mistake.
That would explain why they were so damn hostile to humans.
Just a thought. Back to cryosleep for me.[/details]