AE Dudley Match-up Thread: Keeping It Classy

I’m having trouble against Zangief, and he seems to be able to command throw me after blocking my standing HP. Outside of that we’re trading a lot of hits when trying to poke but he has way more health, not really sure how to approach him without getting thrown around the place.

Been playing Dudley for as long as Super has been out. Gotta say, these forums have given me some hope for this character. Watching players like HJMXP,Marn(way back in the day) and Smug_The_Beast has given me confidence in the abare potential of our Character if you really put in the work.

I’m glad he’s getting some buffs and you know what, even though he isn’t the strongest character, he is cool as fuck and I love it. Enough money to pay capcom to give him seth level buffs, and he has the class to fight his way to the top real legit like. Only buff I’m gonna ask for is rose petals in the whirl wind animation of U2

You have to zone him completely for the first round, HP, and a risky SSB are good every so often. But you’re gonna have to get some meter for the next round. You can use your Ex.ducking upper as an anti air for a jump happy Gief.

Me personally? I like to go in a bit more than recommended. Even though it’s a one sided battle upclose for Dudley in this matchup when it comes to risk vs reward, you have to be ready to link off of every hit. Because Dudley has less of a chance when it comes to playing the poking game in pretty much every matchup. Gotta learn to fight where he fights best imo.

dont mention marn here…ever

Mind if I ask why?

It may be because Marn isn’t a very good Dudley player, in contrast to the others that are out there.

Long story short, Marn isn’t a “good” Dudley. When he was playing Dudley he effectively skated by on instinct and reads. It was good, don’t get me wrong, but there was a ton of unsafe shit and stupid things that he did that people weren’t punishing him for.

He’s basically only famous as a Dudley player for beating Daigo and winning Devastation 2009. That’s it. That’s his entire Dudley career in a nutshell. Everything else is either forgettable or trumped up by him or others as being more important than it actually is.

Thanks for giving me a straight reply man. And I totally get what you mean. Its a great thing that Hjmxp and Smug are around, I get to at least see some interesting tech these days. I still have a lot to learn about Dudley so it’s nice to witness high level classiness wherever I can get it.

Anyone have a good idea how to approach the Dictator match-up. I know what to punish…but dealing with him in terms of spacing is heck.

Some notes about it I picked while hanging around here + some match up experience.

  • Get careful not to get cornered, easier said than done, but still, don’t give up too much space if you can manage it.
  • cr.mp can beat s.rh (buffer and stuff)
  • Many low moves will beat scissors (cr.mk etc)
  • Dictator has some hard time anti airing, so unless you are really telegraphed (his j.mp come to mind) you should be able to apply some jump in pressure. Especially if you will predict some kind of kick (he can’t normal, and dp in the last moment)

It’s harder to come with more theory than this (for me anyway) without watching some of you matches against one. Noting that you do punish everything you can and don’t let him get away with stupider stuff than he already has.

(so many ‘than’ in the the sentence, did i score them all?)

Hmm i was noticing some of that…i may just have to start jumping at Dictator more just to keep pressure. Keeping Bison honest is a hard days work in that match up…so many escape tools. Ill see what i can put to use next time i fight one.

You guys have ever fought a Vega that knows his shit?
Jesus, seems like the hardest matchup for Dudley next to Cammy. Went 37-8 against a fellow top Vega player. He can punish a lot of stuff, and can cr mk pretty freely… You can cr mk as a preemptive counterpoke, but them he can just Cosmic Heel or whiff punish you easily. Even if you get your precious knockdown, he still has that 22 f backdash. If you don’t kill him in the first knockdown, chances are that you won’t get another.
I think it’s harder than 6-4 as Zeus, the NYC Vega player, thinks.

Anyone else having trouble with Guile? I have to work really hard to win, even vs a lesser player playing guile. Can’t really duck his sonic booms without getting punished. Can’t SSB on his wakeup. And the fact that Guile can’t really deal with crossups, but Dudley has none. Any advice?

  1. Walk him into the corner (be patient)
  2. Fish for a knockdown
  3. safe jump and go ham

try to get in range to trade hp, f.hp with sonic booms.
Dudley can unblockable on guile, check some of 34 posts somewhere for it.

found it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIoE2xyLkD4

Vega is the hardest my imo, we need todevelop a serious gameplan/tech against him

Vega, Dhalsim and Zangief are my achilles heel. I tend to struggle with vega because online, his shenanigans are annoying to stop. E.G Punishing his cross up attacks. Dhalsim I think I just lack experience because I can easily get a knockdown, but its just that He gets away so easily with his slide, back dash and teleport, among other shenanigans, and Zangief because, well, Zangief. I think vega would be alleviated with a better knowledge of safe jumps however because I keep getting bit by them scarlet flips.

SIM and gief are even imo, I think the only bad matchups are Vega and maybe bison/juri. I feel hopeless against vega, that has to be a 7-3 mu but hopefully it goes down at least to 6-4. w juri and bison I can at least develop a gameplan.

gief is such a pain in the ass gotta reaaaally play the footsies with him, good footsie practice thou.