Great let me modify how I do a super motion because of sloppy programming!
Sadly, while this works on the 360 version, I just tested it on the PS3 version and managed to get a dragon punch instead of the SUPER a few times while only using negative edge.
So the bug affects both the 360 and PS3 versions but seems to occur noticeably more often on the PS3 version.
:lame: Backbone sucks!
How are you guys doing the Super motion? 720, I know, but are you ending in df or db or what exactly are you doing? I do TK motion (db, d, df, f, uf) x 2 and I have never gotten the DP to come out, 100% Super and nothing but. And that’s on PS3, and every other Hawk I’ve played, especially jeffhizzle and TrueOldSchool, don’t seem to have any problems with this either. And no need for NE either.
:hcb::hcb::ub:+:p:
Ah ok, my bad. nvm 
If NE doesn’t fix that motion’s bug on PS3, then that does suck. Just one more reason to move the tourney standard to 360.
Fixed.
merry christmas bros. i got my own xbox in my room + sf4 stick so add my new account and we’ll get some games
I want to start using this guy in HDR. Does anyone know of a beginners guide for him?
I’m reading the wiki but wonder if the info is too old since its ST.
Yeah, Hawk had some fundemental changes in HDR, the same basic priciples apply, but some key stuff acts differently.
Anyway to counter vega rolling claw attack?
Psychic DP.
SRK is on fire tonight. How about a real response though?
Reactionary DP.
That’s a perfectly legitimate response. If they roll all the time, just throw out a DP or similar move. You can also DP on reaction if they like to start a roll attack early.
Wtf do you mean? That was a real response. That’s the most practical way of beating it.
Here’s a real response. DP. If you think you’re badass you can try and do a 360. But what else do you fucking want?
Here’s how to play T.Hawk in HDR. You die because even if Hawk got better in HDR, pretty much everyone that beat him got way better (and everyone he beat the shit out of he does it even better…because the chars got nerfed)
A real response to play T.Hawk? Learn footsies, he has really good pokes. st.rh against shotos in good range for their fireball, but don’t become too predictable to get umeshoryu’d. Most of the time if st.rh doesn’t stuff the fb it trades and round resets to neutral (which is the best thing you can hope for) Learn how to space st.mp and how to use it as AA, it still activates way too far leaving you whacking air when they jump in combo you.
Dive sucks, it leaves you at neutral now instead of giving you a knockdown which was essential for a lot of his shitty matchups. You don’t have O.Hawk’s throw loop in the corner anymore, aka no more option select because Sirlin thought it was a cool idea to give him a whiff animation.
Versus chars like shotos you just have to pray you poke them to death, get random sweep for knockdown or walk up shoryu against their fb and you have to capitalize off that way more than you would have to in original st because you don’t have os j.jab into 360 and you don’t have a dive that knocks down.
Against Deejay, you have to just hope that he has shitty reactions and just doesn’t know the matchup. You can’t move forward, you can’t jump in without getting fucked up.
It’s even worse in Guile Matchup, you can’t even neutral jump over fireballs safely at most distances because of rh.fk (dumb fucking idea)
Matchup vs Sim is godawful just because of the fact that he already suffered horribly in the matchup in original st, and by taking away throw loop and knockdown dive you’re just going to eat pokes all day.
You still lose in Honda matchup, not even bothering to explain why.
Vega matchup is pretty much the same. Wait for him to come to you. j.jab his dive attempts, reaction dp versus ball.
Bison matchup is gay as shit since he has houdini hitbox on cr.mk that beats most j.jab attempts, and Bison’s unneeded changes were dumb giving him a bit more advantage than he did in ogst.
Chun matchup is actually one of the matches where you’re in favor pretty much all of the time, now that she’s pretty much the worst char in the game. Poke her to death and jump in on her a lot, she really can’t do much vs splash other than if you do bad spaced one she can neutral j.rh you.
Rog matchup is still the same from ogst. Don’t jump in on him unless its for oki. Sit and wait for him to come at you with 360 his fullscreen dash punches, whiff cr.jabs to stop him from coming in, dp his slow jumping. cr.strong can do the same as jab if u wanna be fancy.
Blanka matchup is the same, get balled to death no matter what and you can’t punish, maybe st.rh I don’t remember on badly timed balls. DP his jumpins. It’s a matter of who can get in who’s head faster in this match.
I’m sure I’m missing some chars, but I’m sick so I don’t give a shit atm. If you have more questions I can answer them later.
Not really. The Guile match-up is 6-4 in HDR. Blocked or hit, Dive, land and throw out Cr.MK is pretty bullet-proof. You couldn’t neutral jump over a fireball in ST at RH Flash Kick range either very well because of Guiles J.RH.
Wrong again. Sim is still f’d in the corner, throw whiff or no throw whiff.
I’m no expert, but I main Blanka, and I NEVER use balls in the Hawk match. The rapid fire c.jabs stop them cold, and holy crap does it suck getting dp’d out of a ball. (j.jab will also stop them BTW)
Trying to reversal a 360 tick is about the only time the ball seems usefull in this match, but its definitely a last ditch, I hope this works kind of thing. Basically if Blanka is up against the wall trying to guess the reversal, the round is over. (I’ve played Jiggly enough times to know that.)
Not attacking you or anything but I’d really like to hear your justification for this. I would argue that Cammy, Fei-Long, and Zangief are the worst - but at least with 'Gief you have the potential to deal massive damage.
I concur, I cannot even fathom Chun being “the worst char in the game”, heck most/all tier lists put her over Guile. And I know, tier lists arent everything, esp. in HDR, where even low tier chars have won at tourny level. I dont think I have **EVER **heard anyone call Chun gutter tier in HDR/ST ever.