2011-2012 NFL Discussion and Fantasy - Payton and RG3, where they going

How did Vick get picked 3 times by the Steelers’ terrible secondary? Aside from the one pick by Troy.

Pats steamrolled yet another preseason opponent. I really hope all of their opponents are just jobbing to make them look good and have Green-Ellis shoot up to round 1 status, only for him to be a terrible reach.

preseason means something if you’re playing your starters and getting spanked

im not gonna go jump off the vick train, but there may be something to his performance. last year he was playing loose no pressure football. this year, hes headlining the dream team. and he did struggle to play consistent football before he went to jail

a slight drop off wouldnt be all that suprising to me. somebody correct me if im wrong, but wasnt he off his game in the playoffs last year too?

Not really. Guys are still learning the system, getting timing down, still not going 100% on plays, etc. It’s essentially a slightly more intense version of a scrimmage. Preseason, unless someone gets injured, means absolutely nothing.

cant wait!

Unless you’re a 49ers fan. It means one more week until Alex Smith is starting games that matter.

In the beginning, I was actually sorta defending Alex Smith, thinking that he got a raw deal with all the bullshit that happened in the organization that most likely killed any chance of his development. Now? He’s just too far past that “pet project” phase to even invest time into; why develop a 27 year old QB when you can just draft a 20 year old QB and develop him so that he’s ready to go at 22/23? Alex Smith will forever be known as “that one guy that was drafted ahead of Aaron Rodgers in that terrible 2005 draft class”.

Looking forward to it.

You know what though, with those SF teams and their horrible protection, would you want to ruin Aaron Rodgers career? Nobody was safe behind that protection scheme. That was David Carr/Texans status.

They did draft Frank Gore that year. So it kinda evened out.

Meh, our o-line in Rodgers’ first 2 starter years were bad too. Not David Carr level bad, but in 2009-10, Rodgers got sacked 50 times, yet still was able to throw for 30 TDs and 4,400+ yards while guiding his team into the playoffs. Even emo baby Cutler, getting sacked 52 times last season, was still able to post semi-respectable numbers (23 TDs, 3,200+ yards) while guiding his team into the NFC Championship game.

rodgers got sacked 50 times because he held the ball way too goddamn long, a problem he sorta fixed last year

Sometimes, but not all 50 sacks were solely on Rodgers. That o-line wasn’t that great and there were plenty of times when the defender was in the motherfucking backfield by the time Rodgers took his 2nd dropback step; injuries and age fucking killed us that season (Tauscher, Clifton, etc).

Yeah, judge Vick in a preseason game where he only rushes two times for the 12 times he threw it.

Vick’s running threat increases his options as a passer… but there’s no way they’re going to let him run the ball in preseason now is there.

so the Eagles got spanked by the Steelers… who got spanked by the Redskins. Dare I say: Skins= NFC east champs?

so the eagles have become the lakers of football considering how the fans rally

I’m pretty sure everytime a ‘dream team’ is assembled through free agency they end up being a flop

Don’t do it…you’re only setting yourself up for disappointment. Skins are gonna be shit yet again this year.

Just like the Cowboys right? :looney:

naw Cowboys will aight. I guess i’m salty that the Skins gave up McNabb and went with a quarterback who to me at least is a downgrade. Meanwhile McNabb is probably gonna pick up where Favre left off with the Vikings and bring them back to the playoffs.

Vikings honestly don’t appear to be a playoff team, but stranger things have happened… like the entire NFC West.

Not with that depleted defense they are not