How many people did this black guy shoot? How many rounds did he actually fire off?
NONE. The fact that he drew the gun and aimed it at the cop is a lethal threat, and the cop was well within his rights to cap him. And no, cops don’t do that movie shit where they shoot a gun out of someone’s hands, nor do they shoot people in the leg or arm to wound them. I just had to say that because you had the naivete to ask what you did, as if the fool did no wrong in pointing a fucking gun at someone. You don’t get to point a gun at ANYBODY armed before they have the right to kill you in self-defense, moron. You don’t get to run around brandishing a firearm. That’s just common fucking sense. Then again, it might not be to someone who doesn’t have a concealed carry permit.
Keep it mind, those people didn’t have the video at the time they were gathering. And given what’s happened in that area recently (the mike brown incident), I think they have a good reason not to trust the words of the Police.
Now that the video is out, I don’t expect people to protest or riot in that area.
You pull a gun out against a cop, you better be prepared to kill him
Yea I dont expect US cops now to do anything but fuck up, lol movie shit 14 rounds to put somebody down speaks volumes enough for me.
Actually, people can keep coming after a surprising amount of lead in them. A lot of people who are shot don’t immediately even realize it unless they expected it. They may feel an impact, but it isn’t debilitating. Sometimes they touch their blood-wet pants or shirt and wonder “wtf is this from?” Then the pain and physical weakness hits them when they see the injury. Even a heart-shot doesn’t drop you instantly. That’s why cops are trained to empty the clip: people can be shot multiple times while not on drugs and keep coming.
Ah huh, btw you see a gun in that video? Maybe ID? If it was a gun, cop gonna have time to pull out and fire away without retaliation? Sorry man I aint gonna believe what some police sergeant said when the video is 1 bullshit and 2 edited for convenience.
I know some of you dudes are paranoid wrecks and think its fine just to blow people away n shit but to me this might as well be striked up to another case of shoot the black man cause fuck it.
You ever handled a gun in your life? Yes, the answer is that the cop’s version of events is well within the realm of possibility and when paired with the video, is the most likely version of events.
And yes, you keep shooting when you decide to kill somebody. The sheer number of possible outcomes or mitigating factors is so large and your only method of possibly overcoming them is numbers. And to put your argument on its head, why wouldn’t you shoot several times? There is nothing to be gained by holding back rounds and you are slightly increasing your chances of dying.
I was in the army for 3 years, ive handled weapons, the point i was making is what really necessitates lethal force on this scale, especially when the evidence isnt that clear cut. If that guy pulled a gun out and started blasting then sure empty the clip if thats what you need to do. /me shrugs.
So by your rules, self defense is useless.
@SoVi3t lol close enough man I was in the RLC. @MotM I believe there is better options than just to start blasting when you see a weapon in somebodies hand in order to preserve human life, shit didnt this happen in a country where its your god given right to have a gun anyway?
You need to look at these things case by case, going by officer testimony for me aint good enough cause these same pricks thought choking a fat guy to death for selling a cigarette is a good idea and that video is conviently paused before any audio exchange between officier/victim happens.
While there can be exceptions, this is as a rule not true.
Uh, no, that was New York. St Louis police didn’t kill that guy. handwave These are not the pricks you’re looking for.
Seriously, is a wtf tag your response to everything? It’s getting old. Good night and Merry Christmas.
So the cops should let the guy shoot them before acting…
That’s what the black community says in situations where the dude pulls a gun. Niggas don’t seem to understand that an officer or ANY person doesn’t have time to see if a gun is fuckin’ real or a realistic replica, or if the fool who pulled a gun and pointed it at you wasn’t gonna just go “PSYCH! I was jus’ fuckin’ with you, bleed.”. Some fool threatens someone’s life, and the black community blames that person for defending themselves. No wonder so many in the community can’t stay out of trouble and just keep racking up felonies, trying to live that glorious(ly stupid) thug life. They either have no damn concept of what is illegal or not, or they just don’t care.
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This seems like the best place to put this video:
[/quote]while being incredibly insensitive, that video was pretty funny.
I assure you that if a bullet pierces your heart, the organ that pumps over a gallon of blood around your body in a minute when just sitting behind your computer watching youtube videos, in a non elevated state (If youre in fight or flight mode, double or triple that), youre gone almost instantly.
I’m not getting between yalls argument, but lets not start getting crazy here. lol
You’re good for another 3 or so minutes of movement. Nothing’s instant unless it takes out EVERYTHING (massive concussive shockwave that liquifies your internals), or at least the brain.
There’s a few points I would like to make for points in this post. I will try not to make this too long.
"Niggas don’t seem to understand that an officer or ANY person doesn’t have time to see if a gun is fuckin’ real or a realistic replica, or if the fool who pulled a gun and pointed it at you wasn’t gonna just go “PSYCH! I was jus’ fuckin’ with you, bleed.”
Amadou Diallo got shot 41 times for pulling out a wallet.
Another person got shot (but didn’t die) by a police officer for getting ID the officer asked him to get.
This isn’t just a simple case of the ‘black community’ (there’s more than one ‘community’ of black people; we’re all not one and the same) up in arms over the police killing black people (if you don’t mind me asking, if you’re going to refer to us as “Niggas”, are you black yourself?).
The issue is more that there seems to be no regard for taking the lives (of black males in these recent cases) whether it was necessary or not. And again, this isn’t just the overreaction to one isolated case. But these are unfortunately becoming more of an occurrence.
John Crawford wasn’t holding his toy gun at the police, let alone in a threatening manner. The police car had barely stopped when the police officer got out the car and shot and killed Tamir Rice, a 12 year old. With the fact that you have toy guns for sale in walmart, or the fact that the emergency dispatcher was told that the boy could have had a toy gun, shouldn’t these have been considerations by the police when they engaged in these situations? Especially considering the fact that these situations could, and did, lead to some people losing their lives?
By the above, I’m not by any means saying Michael Brown was innocent. However, even if we were to go by the officers version of events, the fact that some of the shots were fired while he was in a submissive position (kneeling forward), the officer could have apprehended him. But decided to shoot him again, killing him. Did he have to kill him?
Eric Garner shouldn’t have resisted the police. But he didn’t threaten anyone’s life. Did he deserve to die? Can the police just kill people whenever they like?
And Akai Gurley… apparently an ‘accident’. But again, if we are to believe the version of the police, a foolish decision by the police officer (opening a door with a hand he had a gun in) led to a random person being killed. To some of us, not just “blacks”, but people in general, these seem like injustices. Which is what the unrest is over.
I think it’s a shame that this is a race issue, and/or a ‘black vs police’ issue. Life should be valued by all, and for all.
But rather than progressive solutions, all that seems to be happening is a cycle of death, hate, death, and so on.
Edit: I would like to explicitly say, the death of the two officers was deeply saddening, terrible, and unjustifiable. It’s a sad current state of affairs.