Zangief Strategy/Match-up Thread

Any dread kick is blizzard fodder. You just have to anticipate it.

Dictator matchup has changed for me a lot, we already had to gues but now we cannot punish EX PC properly because he is not considered airborne when pc finish so ex gh will not kd him, so every time bison is cornered he can pretty much ex pc and get out for free with minimal punish, no kd and he is too far away to do any mixup…

Wait can’t ex pc be stopped with lariat?

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On block you mean? Tbh didn´t even tried lol, I always punished it with EX GH in super but maybe lariat works too.

Yeah I use kick lariet in the corner on wakeup vs bison beats ex pc clean Not on block though needs to be before it hits and keeps them cornered. Once you set that up I expect either nothing and go for a spd or a headbut which trades with ex stomp or ex devils r which headbut beats clean. also cross up knees to suplex will grab them out of Expc but timing is strict but it looks awesome and it’s very demoralizing if they have never seen that before. Also wake exspd beats wakeup u2’s from bison and looks awesome too.

I’m studying for finals now so I won’t be able to get to the write up until later in the week. But I’ll have something for you guys soon.

Which ultra is best vs the new chars in ae and how are u using it anyone? I’m leaning u2 vs all 4 but haven’t made up my mind.

Against the twins I really don’t know so far against the new shotos I tend to stick to U2

any tips for going against makoto?

How do you guys fight against Sagat in AE?

Since Ex Hand don’t knockdown anymore, I have the feeling this match up is terrible, like it was in vanilla x__x

My biggest problem is the safe tiger knee, sometimes it beats lariat and If tiger knee trades, I lose a lot of space, I don’t think trading tiger knee with lariat very usefull…
If I block it, they put me in a bad position, usually ending in another safe tiger knee, slowly pushing me away from them or punishing me for trying to reversal SPD his normals after the tiger knee.

There’s any better answer besides ex hand on reaction or be super psychic with reversal SPD?

p.s: Sorry for my bad english

I looked for awhile here for a Hawk strat. someone help me please!!

Typically Hawks are going to turtle you. So you have to remember you can turtle him right back. He cant chip you full screen without a punish so fuck him. Let him come to you too.
So, you need to fight to keep position. You want to stay slightly outside his s.hk range and whiff punish when he miss fires with a s.mp.

Also, cr.mp as an AA is not a bad option to deal with Hawks who are trying to play that empty jump spd/dive 50/50 mixup <==this only work’s when you are NOT on your back however.

I used to like u1 in this MU, just because you are bound to jump out of an spd attempt at some point, but if you have good u2 execution, it shuts down or at the very least creates a 50/50 mind game with 3/4ths of his specials. Plus his floaty ass jump can be an easy AA with u2.

Is anyone having a bit more trouble with Rose now so far I haven’t beaten one.

That yang wake up glitch is going to mess up that matchup I hope they fix it.

I’ve been using standing strong to smack T.Hawk standing roundhouse. Doing fairly well with that matchup. Any tips for patience Oni players who don’t play like idiots? That character has some annoying normals.

Rose has given me some trouble too, i can usually get a reversal spd on a blocked spiral arrow. Trying to get in though is a bitch

They are more backdash happy than before.

I’m not sure roses could be anymore backdash happy than super. And ONI can zone you can wiff jump spd but his aa range on f hk is really good so it’s hard to be far enough away to bait it not jumping at ONI is the best option. I think you might just need to bull dog him into the corner. after playing a good ONI, who’s that good able with the corn rows from NYC his ONI was able to zone me out pretty well but to tell you the truth it’s not that bad his normals are kind of slow so just get past the fireballs force him to play footsies and bull dog him towards the corner.

is that the wiff green hand one? or a new one?

Other than sagat, the hardest matchup for me in AE is feilong. I don´t feel that helpless even against akuma, feilong just controls the matchup from start to finish you need to be 100% on your reactions and take big risks to win. The sad part is very few feilongs play the matchup the way they should and think zangief can remotely have any advantage over him.