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yang’s no input wakeup invincibility, if i spd knockdown, i do mp gh which will delay enough to time spd. and mp gh and lp gh is hard to distingish.
good rose would soul thru on wakeup after ex gh knock down on super, so i don’t think it changes the game that much.
most matches, you have to focus on cornering opponent much more than before.
i can see oni will be tough match up. i’m hearing zangitan kept getting whooped by eita’s oni zoning the fuck out.
Uggh. Brand new game and I’m still having trouble with the Rog matchup.
How the fuck do you do anything to him? All his normals make it nearly fucking impossible to get in, and smart Rogs won’t be doing any dash punches because they know you get a free SPD on block. During footsies his st. HP is fucking annoying as shit and if you jump in on him you risk getting headbutted, eating an anti-air normal or a sweep upon landing. I play this matchup just advancing one step at a time. Take a step, crouchblock. Take a step, crouchblock. Take a step, get hit by FP or any combination of his bullshit normals into a sweep. I fucking hate Rog!!!
I can’t stand boxer too and it’s definitely one of the mu’s I hate the most. It only got harder cause of the new gh but it basically comes down to getting the lead and turtling. If he gets the lead, he just sits there all day and u really can’t do anything so yeah it’s a shitty, boring fight.
stand lk. OS ex hand is pretty wonderful for the boxer matchup.
Hmm… okay, I think I’ve figured out how to do this.
You NEED to turtle in this match. Make him come to you, and don’t be so paranoid about walking towards him to make him back off. It may not seem like ti but Rog IS scared of you. He doesn’t want you anywhere near him but knows that he has to get close sooner or later. In the early game try to bait him to come closer by whiffing things, then defend and punish as appropriate. Once you get a life lead you put him in the position of needing to take more risks. If he gets a life lead do the same thing as you did the opening of the match and bait his aggressiveness.
I have a question about Dan: What about his backdash? Is it considered airborne in AE?
I think every dash has an airborne element in AE.
Edit: but taking his animation into consideration, maybe someone should check in training mode.
I have tried it in training mode and i couldn’t grab him with U2 after an EX GH. I pushed it on my inexperience with U2 and decided to ask first, cos i remember Capcom releasing those change notes and only for some characters stating that. Maybe it’s cos everyone else was already airborne in previous versions of the game.
Also thought about his backdash animation and that it would be kinda strange for it to be airborne. Though, Dan is a type of character that may be just immune to allot of standard setups, like when he crumples faster than the rest of the cast.
Anybody got a Juri writeup? Lost in locals Friday night to one. Stupid annoying character. It seems her pinweel beats everything.
EX hand should still beat pinwheel. Doesn’t lariat still trade with it?
You have to time the EX Hand and it can be stuffed also U2 catches it which leads to this was that Juri mashing it using it on wake up or what.
Edit: she can be thrown out of it I want to say start up but don’t quote me on that.
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Yes, thats a problem to me either…
Juri ex-wheel wakeup dont let me do the typical wakeup game… knees and splash lose to that stupid trick…
I need to ask other thing…
What beat the ryu and ken lp shoryuken in wakeup?
I can give a simple advice of doing nothing on her wake-up. It’s definitely the obvious one, but the thought itself of doing nothing rarely crosses minds of lots of players(including myself).
I imagine it being the same as with Cammy and Chun Li wake-up, where their options most of the time shut down yours. If it’s a cross up mix-up situation then simply jump over empty and wait/bait it out and punish accordingly.
So… Yang strats. Anyone got any?
They jump in, you lariat, Lariat beats his startup of Ultra 1 or 2 (i cant remember). Greenhand has nice setup. Lariat when they wake up. Jump in with LK then do SPD. Yang seems free when I play gief.
Okay, what about Rufus?
Hey guys, just getting back to playing after a few month break. We all know Sim can be a pain for Gief, but now it appears we can’t even use lariat as a safety net againts Sims Jumping Fierce, have gotten stuffed the few times Ive tried, used to trade or hit clean consistantly. What did they change here, and how to get around it. Sim MU seems a lot worse now.
Lately, I have just been blocking sniper, waiting for standing fierce from sim, then do jumping towards firece on him (superman) and get that taken care of. Get in with greenhand and SPD. He can teleport, try to catch him with lariat. I agree that is a rough matchup.
What the hell am I suppose to be doing against Fuerte? I pretty much haven’t beat one yet lol