Almost the same thing for everybody try to knock Rose down and follow up with a wake up game, cross up, Head butt…
Don’t jump forward to evade a fireball jumping in if you are far because Rose will do a Soul Throw, if you notice the Super meter is fully charged Rose will try to combo that since it is very easy to execute. Try not to evade fireballs using Lariat if you see Ultra 1 Fully Charged.
*** By looking at Cantona’s game I learned that you do not have to attack always (Wich I seem to do) you can just get close to the opponent and block so you can see what is the reaction then take action.
if your opponent will eat this
Flying Body Attack + Crouching Light Punch 2x + Crouching Light Kick + FADC + Ultra 1
he will also eat
Fba + ultra1
FBA + crlp + ultra 1
FBA + crlp x2 + ultra 1
FBA + crlpx2 +cr lk + walking ultra1
but not vise versa.
so I really dont see any logical reason to try that setup ,not to mention the additonal meters
these days, people either mash reversal ,either jump,either back dash
no one will stay on the ground blocking for this whole cr lp x2 cr lk dash bull shit
unless they are noobs ,no one will play this collaboratively.
I don’t have any super secret Rose tech, but just some general tips. Slow and steady seems to be the way to go with Rose. Getting her cornered is usually my first priority becuse it’s really hard for her to get out unless she knocks you down and she usually has to take risks to knock you down. Once you have her cornered (easier said than done, I know) whittle her down. Safe jump headbutt is my favorite thing to do to Rose on her wakeup, you’ll land in time to block any of her reversal options (at least, I THINK this is true) and if she does her air grab to escape you can punish. Also, if it’s a Rose that’s addicted to backdash, as lots of them are, then Ultra 2 might be good against her. But I haven’t really tested this.
If the Rose is so good that you can’t even get her cornered, well then…that may be a different story. And I HAVE played Roses like that.
Someone else can probably tell you the best option select poke to use on her (either st.lp, st.lk, cr.lp or cr.lk -> EXGH). I suck at option selects because my execution is ass and I usually don’t have the presence of mind to use them. Until the round is nearly over and I’m at low health and I remember “Hey, I should use some option selects here.” Then I wonder why I hadn’t use them for the whole round.
@Bebedero Chivo
I agree with the general consensus here that that Ultra setup isn’t very good at all. As sswyu said, with a little practice you can perform an Ultra after any of those cr.lps or cr.lks and NOT have to use a dash or waste meter on an FADC. If an Ultra after a dash will catch them, then an Ultra without a dash will also catch them.
I don’t think it’s that you were bad at it…Not trying to blow myself up or anything, but in a gief mirror, I try to stay out of situations where I could be AA’ed by lariat. If I were to give you advice on your game, I’d say block more. You play an aggressive style, so I know it’s hard to do that.
re: U1 setup - if I land it against any of the guys we play with it will be so epic.
Something I found out yesterday when playing: EX Greenhand will beat Boxer’s Super and Ultra if you time it correctly. Like right when his fist is about to hit
Okay, I’m uber frustrated with those really good guiles in the corner, those that aren’t jumpy but just super patient. I can’t do much about it. They can c.mk you out of the light spd range. random sonic boom or spinning backfist to keep me out. and obviously i cant jump, due to the flash kick. Most characters are free in the corner, except guile. It seems like in the corner, he’s 5x more powerful against gief. how do i make them make mistakes? I tried OS lk to Greenhand against his c.mk and that ain’t working very well. lol. Ultra 2!!! Greenhand to FADC backdash wont work, since flashkick has ridic range. The only thing that i can do is random ex green hand and hoping it’ll hit… help and suggestions?
i can imagine playing dieminion and die of frustration.
Don’t do the ex-gh randomly. Just outside of guile’s c.mk range, walk back a lil to bait out sonic boom, then you can ex-gh on reaction. But if you are playing online, then I dunno.
Cross up is very good on Guiles you can also try to do Standing HK if you are not to close to Guile on the corner or if you are close then you can do Standing LP since it will hit them on the air and ground. If there is no chance to do that then just step back a little a see Guile’s reaction, if you have the life lead there is no need for you to follow Guile, sonic booms does not create a lot of damage.
Sorry, but s.hk towards a Guile who is crouching in the corner is just dangerous. You will eat a flash kick; rather you should eat a flash kick. Better to hold your ground and try to bait something with safe-ish pokes IMO.
Sonic booming becomes a lot less safe in the corner because of reaction ex gh. Otherwise just stay there and poke with c.lk which should stuff c.mk from him. Osing that is a good idea but even without that you’re still good just poking him. Bit let him react. Be patient. Eventually most guile players will do something stupid. If they give up charge to throw a boom inthe corner you can try and pressure from the air as well. Don’t cross him up. Period. Trust the fact that he’s better off in the corner than you are and you don’t want to chase him the full distance of the screen again if you wan to win the match.
if you are in that sweet range to do it, why wouldn’t you be looking for it or baiting it? don’t gotta buffer constantly, it shouldn’t be a guessing game.
I concur, JasonC does EX.GH my booms on reaction. He’s a bum. Also Guile in a corner against gief is always bad for Guile. It becomes really hard to zone when you don’t have the space. I thought as gief that’s what your whole game plan should be.