Vega? I don’t have an answer. Easier on knockdown but I don’t have a go to reliable strat
Make him lose his claw and suplex him to the other side of the screen, for starters.
I dunno this matchup well either though.
you mean liek wiff Standig Hk into SPD? Gimmicks can only get you so far… keep abusing online lag and talk about strategy
Wow, I never thought I’d have to defend myself for winning an online match. I’m pretty confident lots of people whiff HK into SPD in a Gief mirror. Anyone who’s seen me play can attest to me not being all gimmicks. Thanks for the critique? I’d love to have an idea on how to fight Vega though. I can’t believe you’d post in here salty after losing an Xbox live match. Jesus christ.
OS green hand on knockdown for vega against those who abuse backflips. against good vegas, you gotta outfootsie them. you cant really rely on FA or headbutt on walldives, good vegas know the positions in the air.
Watch out for their J.FP overheads, cosmic heel crossover to overhead. But you can punish those with green hands, if you block them. I don’t know if you can punish those on hits… i know you can on Chun li’s overhead.
Vega’s overhead is 0 on hit, -4 on block. So not punishable on hit. Unless they stick around you, then you can take them for a ride.
Vs vega standing mp punish all his wiffed pokes I kind of play him like I do balrog. U2 is a good aa ultra for vega but it only aa’s if you bust out a move so it won’t hit an empty jump. I love baiting vega u2 with an empty jump cross on wakeup vs vega. Watch for random ex knee wall dive bs.
Honestly, I find the best thing against Vega for me has been to play uber aggresively. I know that doesn’t speak volumes, but he’s one of the peole that the c.lariat seems inconsistent, and trying to bait into things such has headbutts, don’t work out in my favor as much.
I’m not saying to just walk into endless claw links, but walking forward in this match-up is pretty effective for me, as is the j.hp->SPD ‘tick’. I don’t like using GH to close distance, just like Sim - his reach is to ofar and too fast to get away with it, I’d rather bait with KKK. EX RBG has worked a few times in footsy wars (when you think that slide might come out), though I still don’t recommend it heh.
Just play the match-up aggresively, and look for headbutts on wall hops…REACTIONARY ones.
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Anyone with a good run down on how to effectively pressure Bison on wake up?
about the only thing is a nj HB > wake head stomp, but this is prediction. lp gh to SPD again seems to only work on prediction of back teleport, if done on reaction, he’s recovered already so no spd unless he blocks. and who wants to do a lp gh on prediction anyway?
Basically alot of characters can O-S him to death, can Gief?
Hi Zangiefs I am Pablo from Costa Rica I main Zangief and I’ll be posting here a lot! The best way to defeat Vega is headbutt or follow him with green hand, to play against Bison you can do the regular wake up game this is a trick that works for me:
Flying Body Attack + Crouching Light Punch 2x + Crouching Light Kick + FADC + Ultra 1
This is not expected by anybody since Zangief doesnt really do FADC, it works best if the oponet blocks the whole string, I have not seen anybody doing this but it works great =)
You better not use Bison VS Gief if you know how to use Blanka go for it.
That might be the worst ultra set-up ever. Giefs dash is slow and their is only a few frames of stun to that lk so it’s no better than dash in ultra only it cost’s you 2 bars. I doubt you have ever landed this in a real match. Chase him with green hands vs claw? When should people do this because it’s not good advise unless you add that. Also if you random headbut vs claw w u2 you eat a full u2.
Oh and when someone asks about a match-up just suggesting they pick blanka is the opposite of helpful.
Thanks for posting and welcome to the forum and I look forward to your future posts.
Ummm pressuring Bison’s wake up?
option selects anyone? punishing teleport without having to guess?
@ BP
Yeah, I was kind of waiting for someone to respond to Bebedero Chivo’s setup. Still, it is a start on the path to sneaking 720s in, so props to that and welcome; it is just wildly unsafe, an inefficient use of meter and massively punishable on reaction.
It looks insane but it works great you should give it a shot trust me
Flying Body Attack + Crouching Light Punch 2x + Crouching Light Kick + FADC + Ultra 1
The thing is is it may have worked once, it may work a few times; but, as BP pointed out it is horribly horribly unsafe on reaction (Gief forward dash = Biggest punish available), wastes 2 bars when a c.lk/s.lk buffered U1 will do the same thing. So instead of just doing c.lp x 2, c.lk buffered U1 you are actually throwing in a waste of meter and an unsafe dash. If you like the setup, omit the FADC and just do the U1 after c.lk. Smarter, safer and saves you precious meter for chip finisher/getting back in/ canceling an unsafe GH etc.
I’m gonna try that setup at the next casuals session I go to just for laughs. I’ll let you know how many people fall for it.
Since I will most likely be playing against you or watching at that session; I will keep a tally. Can’t believe how bad I was at AA’ing you yesterday.
Anyone on tips for Rose? Just lost to one horribly…
I see what you mean and I agree that is a waste of meter, however in a real match nobody will expect this and even if Zangief’s dash is very punishable by doing it in a midle of a combo it does not have a lot of reaction time for the oponent. Remember you need to risk and you will gain a lot if you connect Ultra 1. Try it yourself!
*** Sorry if it doesnt make sense Im from Costa Rica =)