shut up no one cares about your online rank or winnings. you’re free offline.
you’re free too so what value does your opinion hold?
Someone’s trying to get a full neg rep bar. I’m certainly not feeding the trolls.
.
I never said Training mode would replace real players thats silly.
It’s just sounded like is Grief was fighting in the Dark. A few hours in training mode should shead light on the Match up that’s all.
O9 members!?.. Yo… Diago spends like 5 hours a day just in training mode.
If “Ultra D” ain’t bug’N why are you?
if i was a zangief player, that would be my sig.
Naah I’m not buggin… But to be fair, Daigo plays a char that is heavily reliant on TONS of links and combos. Gief really only has 2, with multiple variations of those 2. If training mode had a compensation button for lag online, my links online would be as good as they are offline. 
I swear it has to be a mental block… Even in a green or yellow bar game I sometimes miss my links. Of course most of my play is offline.
But don’t think I’m “buggin” it’s just an online perception thing. If we were having this conversation in person you’d see a different perspective with my tone. 
Lurk more, post less please.
Does anyone know the frame dis/advantage of blocking last hit of ppp lariat?
it’s definitely not -44.
Happened to me in a mirror match.
Blocked the last hit and I thought I could sweep for free but end up eating a spd.
Also I just realized close.mp on hit is +1, can your opponent escape if I ultra right away?
jump motion is technically 1 frame, right?
I found the better I got, the less chance I can land an ultra on a equal level opponent.
Now I only use it to punish stupid stuff.
Who died and made u mod…
I’ll see you later… How bout some on-line matches… dont rage on me quit like your boy moose…
Punch lariat is only -44 if you block the first hit and don’t get hit with any of the other hits.
If the very last hit hits you, you take the 20 frames of block stun and tack it on after that hits. It’s the exact same concept as “meaty attacks”.
Looking at it, it could be up to +6 if you knocked someone down and hit on the very last frame. But a 30 frame meaty attack that starts with “OOOOHHHYEAAAH” probably isn’t so good…
So, more like 0 frame or +3 if the last hit is what you block.
Try EX SPD or ultra out of blockstun.
Half the time you post “advice” I end up having to correct you, because it’s wrong or generally not good advice.
If Moose “ragequit” it was because there was either a 1 bar connection or he was bored owning you while rocking his baby to sleep at the same time.
MW2 got me to finally remove SF4 from my XBox…trying to do some catch up on topics…some good “funny” owning the last page heh. Can’t rep cause I’ve repped most of youse guys alredee.
Hey UD, could you ‘convey’ in a bit more detail what OnlineTony was doing? Most of the Seth’s I fight are garbage, and even trying to youtube stuff, I don’t get much thats “1-9” overwhelming. While I feel the match up is 2-8 or 1-9, I’m not…experienced enough to validate that, so I’m curious as to what I’m missing to make the shift that hard to the right…3-7 is “really tough fight that feels impossible sometimes”, but 1-9 to me reads as “complete destruction”. Was it a turtle up type game, or a more aggresive playstyle based on FB spam? More than anything I always fear FB spam as the recovery time is so fast that bulldogging across screen can be difficult hell he’ll get a EX FB to push back furher by thetime I get there, or TP away
Building new stick next week so I should be back on and actually able to execute again (my Hori is just dying a slow and painful death)
- :bluu:
I’m gonna head to Cali in the next couple weeks, gonna head over to OnlineTonys to see it in person. (His X-Box ringed) I will say the Seths I have problems with are VERY good at zoning, and when you get close, wall bounce out. They dont’ throw out a single punishable limb, and almost always run the clock out. (Unless you make too many stupid mistakes and get hit by whatever they’re chipping with, then the clock isn’t a factor, your depleting health is)
Forreal? I need to get MW2 soooo bad. I hear that game is HOT…FAIIIYYAAAAH!
Tekken 6 is what got me to stop playing SF4. The online is more complete garbage than SF4, but its good to play something different after only really playing SF4 since February.
I’ve also got the New Super Mario for the WII, which is actually a GREAT mario game. It is complete old school style and back to its roots with the world over view like in SNES. + its 4 Players at the same time.
i’m having a lot of trouble trying to play footsies with honda. Am i not suppose to? His st.fp, st.mp, and st.rh are giving me alot of trouble. it seems he can react to gief’s laggy moves (cr.mk, st.mk, st.rh, cr.rh) and punish with anything he wants.
I was playing vs this honda who turtled up hard, and it seems like it’s hard to jump in on a honda, and walking in with footsies gets me smacked out with one of the normals mentioned.
I know i’m missing something to this matchup, I just don’t know what it is…
Me too What part?
I’m going to be in Norcal, Bay Area…
But anyways You guys keep at it… I gonna play Sagat.
Robin… It’s all good… I’ll just play you in tournament…
Yeah I got a crew of folks from SRK and real life that run on MW2 team deathmatch, none of us are great or anything, but nothing like kicking back and just making jokes/having fun/being stupid. Most of us are low teens with one guy at 57 (such a large disparity but he didn’t ahve a job shrug. I said no thanx for the first time to a tekken (I even filled up my limited edition Tekken 5 box set thingy)…because of how bad everone is reporting the online is. thanx to online its rare that I experience ‘offline’…try my best too, but its sooo much easier.
Until TvC come out, my wii has been abd will be dead to me. Waste of money.
As for Honda, I struggle with every variant of his FP and his st.rh. Any success I have against turtle Honda’s is purely because he’s my second so I can bait him semi-reliably, but even on baits, the good honda’s aren’t really punishable (using his normals or safe moves). shrug so all I can say is bait what you can (obvious I know). Ever try just bulldogging into c.lk range?
- :bluu:
i’ve gotten close enough for that a few times, but by that time he has meter for ex headbutt/buttsplash. he conserves his meter specifically for getting away from me (smartly), so it makes it hard to punish. usually if i’m in crlk range he’s using st.rh to push me back out.
I think i’m literally a pixel or two away from grabbing him with jab spd. It’s just something i’ll have to work on i guess. Is honda suppose to have an advantage on the match up?
Gief has a hard time with footsies on Honda. Trade are almost always in Hondas favor as well. Never EVER jump at a honda with meter, Ex-headbutt is free. With all that said, the match is 5-5.
Honda crouching lp to fierce hands is the push out for me, and it does a TON of chip damage.
Any advice on Fei-Long? I’m brand new to the match and somebody wiped me at NCR 'cause i just didn’t know the ranges and small tricks he had. So any basics would be most appreciated.
Yes sir this stuff help me play my gief better than ever
does anyone know any gief players that live in vegas or are coming to vegas??? i would like to spar with anyone. im trying to lvl my geif