yes, but you CAN combo into CA after you pull the enemy to you, but thats it.
lol, how? you can’t combo into v-trigger from any normal , except you are in v-trigger mode already. the enemy can just block after you pull him to you, but while he get pulled you can CA him because he is like hit-stun.
Yeah but it should also make Gief actually cross you in the corner. Issue is that the blowback caused by the counter hit prevents Gief from landing on the other side like he’s supposed to in that situation.
Messing around with Gief and he definitely has some of the longer buttons in the game. Combined with a faster dash than he had in IV he should be able to bully people nicely with his buttons. This character now has mind games in his normals even. f+MK with good range that will low crush any of your low buttons, then if you try to go with standing buttons charged s.HP will armor through those also. s.MK is a great poke and out ranges a lot of other characters pokes. The other buttons seem to be standard Gief buttons but those are the stand out ones for me.
This Gief is pretty much ideal for Snake Eyes. Now he can play as many mind games with his normals as he can with the grabs. People aren’t even going to be sure which normal they can safely throw at Gief anymore especially with V Skill absorbing stuff as well. SPDs have solid damage and range as well.
Doing some video matches for the matches i got tonight, iIfeel like gief is more about spacing out his SPD in this more like ST than sf4 where 1 frame grab style play dominated. Keep in mind i am trying out a lot of little things in these matchups and they are not all fully optimal yet.
@metrokard I think we played earlier vs my Ryu. GG’s. That Gief s.HP is really good against fireballs. Basically lets him whiff punish fireballs while standing.
Also worth remembering that you need to have V-Trigger already activated in order to combo into it, because the animation itself has recovery. So if you’re in red mode, you can combo, like, crouching medium punch into V-Trigger spinning hits. If you try to do crouching medium punch while white, it won’t combo because he’s got to do the whole v-trigger animation which eats up all your hitstun.
Lol finally tried Gief a bit
hitconfirming the CA from cLk, cLP or cLP*2 requires some execution but feels borderline retarded, since if the block you’re still way into range for everything. Unless he’s having a really hard time getting in when the meta evolves, I smell top tier
Looks like his go-to confirm without super is c.LP, st.lk lariat. If you are in a meaty situation or jump in (hk) you can also do fwd HP, st.lk, lariat.
Fwd mk is really good, you can whiff it and spd from half screen and it’s so hard to react to.