Anyone else having trouble timing your meaties after the patch? I seem to get a lot more rollback now. I keep getting blown up on botched oki attempts. I also lost two games because of the stupid counter accidentally coming out. I went from 12.000-something Ultra Platinum to 10.500 in one night. Fun times. Why am I still playing this game…?
As for the counter, you can fairly safely use it against Mika’s V-reversal if you anticipate it. If you mess up you’ll probably only eat the reversal or maybe a jab.
Counter is completely useless like most of us thought. So far I’ve found that headbutt is really not good either. It’s total garbage compared to SF4’s headbutts. Just like with everything else it seems if you just mash a st.jab you will beat it clean. Idk the hitbox seems really tiny to me but maybe I’m wrong.
I agree with your points about Gief, but some of the Balrog commentary is crazy. I’m starting to have the same opinion about non Rog player commentary on him as you guys have about non Zangieg players commenting on him. Balrog straight loses to Rashid and he has a hard time with Bison as well.
Fair enough. I haven’t played him enough to know in those match ups. I’ll take your word for it, I’m surprised with bison people not counter picking rog then. Rashid is a little difficult to play but bison is pretty damn easy
I think he’s pointing out the fact that you are talking about itazan getting knocked out of pools in same tournament that another gief player came in second.
So far I haven’t made use of the new moves well except the counter (and that was by accident). The headbutt is more on your timing on when you want to use it but so far ive only played a small sample size to start using it.
Not in the party that he loses every MU but some of those are difficult to really gauge since not very many top players utilize. Like for example Alex who can fight Gief very well and during his very short stint most top Gief players where getting bopped, now of course due to the nerf hammer he got in season 2 most of Alex mains moved on so not enough data out there from then on. Juri would also fall in that category she does have decent pokes and her FB is decent but nothing to cry home about. At least this wasn’t like it was in SF4 where she became quite the problem but she has enough tools to beat Gief on paper IMO. The main reason people will say that Gief beats them is due to both characters having lower output damage where it gives Gief a chance to comeback.
Laura and Ibuki the scrambles are where they shine against Gief him lacking a “get off me” move outside of CA is where it skews it in there favor at least that’s what I’ve seen it really is just button abuse against Gief where he tends to struggle especially in a game where the priority system makes his lights vulnerable to these two while the heavys and mediums tend to be slow. I see those as toss ups or 5-5
Not much to be said about Ryu and Cammy since we have seen enough of those matches to see where things swing.
I think using air headbutt as an air to air when you read an opponent’s jump could be useful. I’m going to try and incorporate that into my game and see how that goes.
Use the counter the first couple times you block Juri’s s.mp in a set. We always go into mk after to frame trap or hit confirm.
S.mk is also one of her few tool to get space from Gief. Threatening with counter (even if you eat a CC… her CC dmg is ass) and taking away s.mk will cripple her. Gief was already a bad MU for her IMO and if they use the counter right hell be a nightmare.
So there’s a use from a guy that only has a side Gief. I’m sure you guys can find more.
Actually, don’t do it after a blocked s.mp or you’ll get frame trapped.
That’s exactly what a Juri that wants to Crush Counter Tundra Shitty, would say.
You a sleeper agent sent by Infiltration or what?
I don’t buy the bait and switch. We get all hungry and thirsty for that Stand MK, and then you whip out every color of the rainbow. Or shy away after such a tease! OH PLEASE!!!
Death is too easy for them, need to be slowly lowered ass first on to a table saw going full speed.
seriously though the first local i do and that comes out instead of spd i am going to need a new fightstick as this one will be going through the fucking monitor.
Yeah so far after a jump in I always go s.lk x lariat but I always go hold forward to make sure the lariat hits instead I’m getting the counter and eating damage for it I sure as hell don’t want to not hold forward for fear of lariat whiffing (I’ve had it happen before)