Sometimes I think c.lk is a good tool to check whether opponent are trying to jump out or not.
If they block you c.lk chain, they often not intended to jump, and than you can SPD him
If they get hit by your c.lk, means that they are trying to jump out, and then you can prepare for anti-jumping/AirSPD (and combo into CA for sure if you get a full bar)
This can not be replaced by C.LP, as they can still block your C.LP even they are trying to jump backward
Wake up vskill is one option
What do you guys think is the best option when you hard knockdown an opponent?
I usually get hit by most of the wake ups, so now I just waitā¦
meaty headbutt or meaty c.mpā¦also try to wait for a srk
Learn to use meaties and bait reversals. If you are having problems with the timing on meaties, set Nash to v reversal on wakeup. He is vulnerable for two frames and you wonāt connect on bad timing.
I use to be more cautions as well, but with more practice, now I live for knockdowns so that I can keep doing them. I get in close and I just try to guess what I would do in that situation and do the counter to that. Its basically a game of rock paper scissors because now their options are now very limited as they can only do one of three basic things:
Avoid throw - f+HP (I like combo to lariat), f+MK, or air SPD
Reversal - counter with vSkill or f+MK for throws (goes over low attacks as well)
Block - SPD or reg. throw
So lets say you are playing against Ryu and you score a knock down from a lariat anti air. You dash in and the opp is probably preparing for an SPD earlier in match because Zief doesnāt really have any combos unless he can punish. Chances are he wont DP yet because Zief does have good punish combos if its whiffs, so he goes for the jump. You figure thatās what you would have done in that situation so you used f+HP, LK, Lariat to counter and he is down again. Now its round 2 of the knockdown. He is saying to himself surely he thinks I will DP now but he can Vskill or block so I am going to wake up and throw because your so close now, but you use f+MK because thatās what you would have done and f+MK is throw invincible. And then you follow up with an SPD. Now he is panicking and probably mashing DP you are ready with vSkill and then you do HP on the whiff to combo to EX SPD. Next he blocks and you just follow up with SPDā¦END OF ROUND
Obviously this is an ideal scenario, so Iām not saying this will happen every time, but you can see how things could play out. It definitely helped me a lot by simplifying the options that my opp and making my reads from there in hopes of resetting the situation over and over.
Hope this helps.
Fuck damn it, I was disputing with my another friend once again.
He was a expert in SF4,
but he reject to play SF5 as he think the graphic & gameplay of SFV are terrible.
Thus he has NO experience on what SFV happening as he never play before.
He insist the 5 frame SPD is a reasonable start up.
The 2F SPD startup in SFIV is OP, the lariat in SFIV is OP, lariat could anti-air brainlessly without any reaction requirement. Now Giefās lariat is reasonable.
Gief should be suck in SF5 because Gief was too OP in SFIV, now Gief has to pay what he own in SF4
Gief should has no combo because he is a non-combo character.
He also think that if SPD being 2F, it should be able to be throw escaped like normal throw.
I donāt know why there are so many people hate and complain to Gief & Giefās SPDā¦ :s
One more thing
I have reached to Gold yesterday by 52wins in a row o:)
So many tournaments lately yet no matches to watch
If someone finds some zangief match from thaiger uppercut or dreamhack austin, post it pls,
Option that leads to nothing and does no damageā¦ do you think if exspd was hit invincible they will come close and put presure on gief brainlessly?
Did you rage quit to get 52 wins? Thatās pretty impressive, i would be happy to get a 3 game winning streak.
So I got pretty drunk and started trolling on my friends ps4 last night/this morning and uploaded a stupid video to my instagram of a funny match i played against someone. Somehow i air spdād this dude out of srk??? I guess I can live with bottom tier zief as long as i can do stupid shit like this. Cheers mates.
kanon42 is a garbage gief that quits
Yes I did quit vs you. You were a teleporting rashid. If you wanna get butthurt cool. But Iāll move on.
I will not tell you I got 52 win if I am a rage quitter.
However the fact is, I was up from bronze to gold within 1 day
but I almostly just fight bronze/sliver opponents, only 1 of 52 game fighting against a gold opponent.
The match vs bronze/sliver always to be easy.
I havenāt RQ in SFV but goddamn does the lag and rollback really make it tempting.
Canāt believe it but I managed to get to 5500. Online sucks and points are meaningless but Iām not gonna lie, Iām proud of myself for getting this high with this shitty character lol. The struggle never ends.
I am tired of everyone saying he is horrible. Gief is firmly planted as the 18th best character in the game, he dominates all characters 19 and below and should continue to do so for a few more weeks.
I think we should all be happy with the 18th best walkspeed, 18th best medium and heavy pokes, 18th best dash, and 18th best wake up options. You guys need to quit crying.
Sincerely
Combofiend
^ Maaan I was bout to roast yo ass lmao
Is there anyway to reliable link to Giefās v-trigger besides HP? Iāve tried cr. MP but that seemed like 50/50.