Effective use of v reversal is the next improvement I need to make. Anybody have any useful lab routines for this, or do I just force myself to start using it? I literally haven’t v reversal’d once in this game…
the most useful ones are karin’s v-trigger elbow thing , dhalsim’s yoga gale, nash’s moonsault, laura normal into ex fireball, r.mika’s forward hp, cammy’s razor slicer, alex’s forward hp since all of these are plus on block normally, some moves that would leave you too far to raw CA punish (bison cancelling into scissors or dhalsim cancelling into yoga flame) and the fact that any jump-in anyone does to you in the corner you can v-reversal into CA (if they do jab after the jump-in they can block the v-reversal usually).
i normally use headbutt,lk on a opponent whos just getting up follow it up with LRBG or f+mk if he jumps a lot preety useful made it to gold with that setup…how do you guys set up SPD
I’m a new zangief player, I started with sf5. I am using that s.lk>LRBG and it works every time (Im just an ultra bronze), but I’m afraid that it will not work on better opponent once Im in Silver or better. So I try not to use it often.
I do like the cr.lk, cr.lk LSPD on block though.
I also do f.HP SPD on block.
And I’m working on something Zangitan does; When he puts his opponent to the corner, he’s fishing for a nutral jump and SPD when they touch the ground. But in my rank, they only jump forward 
S lk >rbg. Use sparingly and only after one tick. It does work at higher levels if theyve been conditioned to block your normals. People here will tell you it’s useless, but it’s not.
It has great corner carry and leaves you in a position for a mixup. Doesn’t come out as fast as an spd, but still hard to react to. I also like to use it as a whiff punish. But thats pretty risky.
Thx, I’ll still do it sparingly then.
What do you think about the others setups ?
do s.lk Lrbg as long as they get hit with it if you get punished for it do something else and use it again when stop jumping when you do headbutt s.lk
The mindtricks are so important with gief, we need to mix everything up and keep em guessing. Once I have gotten them used to my options on their wakeup (meaty headbutt, meaty HP, spd, block, cr lp) I find they want to throw me on their wakeup, so I like to mix in a neutral jump and then HP on the way down. This works often for me. Also, sometimes they neutral jump as well, if you are good you can get the air grab off.
I’m still obsessed with EX RBG. I feel that there are a bunch of moves that you can do it in reaction to and automatically get the scoop. Of course, it could just be my opponents are bad but…
Like, in the mirror, Giefs HP… As soon as you see them pull the arm back if you ex RBG you win. I don’t think there is anything they can cancel too (besides VTrigger?). My knowledge of the game isn’t good enough at this point, but I’m sure there are a few moves for each character that are soft to the ex rgb, no?
hmmm let me try this out on a mirror match, another perfect opportunity for EX RBG is after an anti-air s.lp
I’ve been using ex running grab against alex’s wind up punch too.
Some videos showing applications of meaty 2mp and meaty 6mk. I used throws since those are the only guarantees where back recovery isn’t available; meaty 2mp should work in other instances where a normal recovery is forced and Zangief is in range (EX SPD, Lariat, EX Air SPD, etc). I need to check the block-stun and see if cancelling into level 2 V-Trigger is a block string.
Nice, didn’t know you got combo into VT activation on meaty cr.MP. And if they block you’re +3. Really good find; was wondering if there were any advantages to doing meaty cr.MP instead of f.HP besides the extra +1.
Yeah, crMP is a great tool. I didn’t know you could use it for vtrigger outside of a counter hit.
I’ve been working on a few set ups for the CA. Maybe this will help to give you guys a few ideas.
He has a really good 50/50 after V-Trigger -> 6mk juggle with command grab and Headbutt. Even better if you have CA for that big command grab damage, and allows you to confirm whether the Headbutt hit before cancelling into super. Very scary.
So Gief can’t combo into SPD? Even ex SPD? And he can’t SPD after hit stun neither right? What can he combo into then geez Lol
I’m a big fan of cr.jab x3.
Gief really isn’t a combo character. He has pretty decent range on his pokes like CR.jab and st.mk and of course his heavy standing buttons. The only combos I rely on are body splash, c.MP xx lariat (which sometimes whiffs on certain crouching characters). I like splash c.MP c.LP c.LP St.HP too because sometimes that heavy will get a crush counter.
If you like doing big 10 hit combos play Nash or Ken.
*Edit June 1st
Optimum jump ins now are j.mk, st.lk xx lariat or j.heavy, c.mp, st.lk xx lariat. Body splash, CR.hp xx VT is a neat gimmick.
Yea he’s really not a combo character as you say, you’re right. But still I feel he needs a couple of things to really help him out. So in order to land a SPD when you get close you can’t poke right you have to do it raw?
Right. It does not combo but say you use cr.jab as your poke, if it hits the opponent or they block it you can wait a few frames (like 1/10th of a second) and then do your spd and it will work. You can’t grab an opponent when they are in hit stun or block stun. This isn’t specific to Gief, it is an established Street Fighter rule for many many many years. However, you can combo into his super. For example, headbutt (forward + hp) does cancel or link to super for a 4 hit super combo. He isn’t a very good character compared to the rest of the cast, but he is definitely fun!
Right on bro! Yea you’re totally right, he’s fun as hell.
So I was under the impression he could combo into ex SPD but guess not although a guy on YouTube says you can. Something about vtrigger>f.mk>hp>ex SPD, maybe that was in the beta or something.
In the beta he could combo into ex spd. The v-trigger>knee>st.hp to ex spd is a reset and doesn’t actually combo. It works well, but that string of moves is reversal-able or escapable. You can however, and I’m sure you know, do v-trigger to air ex spd or crush counter st.hk to air ex spd.