It really is weird on Viper too. It whiffs randomly against her especially when I try to whiffpunish her stuff with s.MP xx HK upkicks.
Oh yeah Viper thats right. If I’m going for whiff punish on those characters I always go for mp lunge buffered into whatever normal. Sakura is the worst… stupid hurtbox lol.
How do you guys pull of genei jin? I’m having trouble confirming it from a lp shoulder because the inputs have to be so fast. St.mp xx lp shoulder is insane, with other characters and cancels if you’re too slow the cancel will not work, the move simply will not come out but with this particular string the shoulder always comes out even if it’s too slow which confuses me, lol. I’m getting pretty good at doing the cancel as fast as it needs to be (which is extremely fast) but doing the qcf motion twice instantly after the shoulder motion is messing with my brain. I just can’t do the shoryuken motion followed by two qcf’s that fast, it never comes out clean. Am I doing something wrong or do I just need to grind it out in training?
Also I appreciate all of the great answers I have been getting. Thank you all.
Yun got stronger due to system changes. However, his weaknesses have been made more apparent.
Killer Kiwi make sure when you do the lp shoulder you do f, d, df, f thus the first qcf has already been done then do the second very quick and confirm that its hitting and press the punch button. Motion is very quick but make sure you buffer everything before the active frames of the shoulder come out and then hit the punch button to confirm.
So you mean for the lp shoulder I should input the regular motion (F,D,DF + punch) and then right after I have pressed the punch button move the stick back up to forward quickly so it counts as one QCF?
So overall it would be
F,D,DF+lp,F then just a regular QCF + punch for the super to activate?
That makes sense and sounds a lot easier than what I was originally doing. Doing the lp shoulder motion and then two QCFs extremely fast was a nightmare lol, I knew I had to be doing it wrong somehow.
I do f qcf lp qcf lp lp…for whatever reason I picked up the habit of hitting lp twice to activate GJ
Been practising it in training mode here and it’s A LOT easier. Still going to take a while before I get it down consistently though.
Thanks for that assassin!
Hitting the lp twice isn’t a bad strategy. “Double tapping” was used in third strike a lot to help with inputs.
Kiwi np man happy to help.
Just a side not to this, I just learned the “gamerbee” genei jin method. I call it this because I haven’t seen anyone else do it. Its max damage if you don’t have ultra stocked
mp xx lp shoulder xx genei jin , st.hk xx lunge , hk upkicks, cr.hp , hk upkicks, cr.hp (xN). Does about 465 or something. Does anyone know of any variations to this that do more damage?
I think I’ve seen poongko do cl.mk instead of the cr.hp. Does geneijin scale?
Yes, it scales heavily. If it didn’t it would be insanely OP lol
For that combo you can do xx genei jin -> st.hk xx forward dash cr.fp into upkicks, cr.fp upkicks, cr.fp (x2) into upkicks as well.
I personally like to end that specific type of genei jin combo into a reset though since it usually carrys them across to the corner:
genei jin, st.hk dash cr.fp xx heavy upkicks, cr.fp xx heavy upkicks, cr.mp, cl.mk launch into dive kick mixup shenanigans
Oh wow you have enough time to dash up after st.hk? Thanks I’ll give that a try in training mode.
Genei jin is so much fucking fun. I’ve actually noticed myself losing games because I want to land genei jin and I focus on it too much instead of playing properly. lol.
Red focus may be more practical but I sure as hell can’t see it being this much fun.
I guess I need to word myself better. I didn’t mean to just throw it out whenever you want like their won’t be any consequences. Yes, you need to be careful throwing normals like you need to be careful doing many other things in this game. But still in the end only a handful of characters can use EX RF really effectively and Yun is one of them.
Yeah its definitely better than GJ in a lot of situations. I love watching kazunoko use it.
kazunoko has been using it very poorly in most cases though lol
I’m sure it’s all strictly just testing and gauging what kind of damage it can do after specific BNB strings though
doing something like cr.lk st.lp cr.mp st.mp xx light shoulder RFADC U1 scales soooo hard lol
Yeah from what I’ve seen it’s just like genei jin for scaling, if not worse. Anything other than a st.mp/cr.mk/st.hp xx lp shoulder scales so bad that it’s a waste of all that glorious meter.
Interested to see how useful it becomes in yuns arsenal.
I know this is a yun forum, but did anyone see the footage of kazunoko playing yang? Yang can utilize red focus just as good as yun and yangs going to be extremely good in ultra. If kazunoko switches I might cry.
I asked him on twitter if he’s sticking with yun and he said yeah, but who knows lol
I’d guess he’ll be playing both twins now
What other characters can hitconfirm red focus like yun?
Am I right in saying most of the fireballs characters can? Like ryu or ken for example, cr.mk fireball?
Glad to hear kazunoko is staying with yun. I’d have nobody to watch if he dropped yun, lol.
Haha no one else to watch? Youtube MMG Julio hes probably best yun in the US and he has some really sick tech. I’ve stolen a lot of it from him.