Yang seems to be 5-5 with Yun. He can apply safe pressure and get out of Yun’s bullshit.
Fei’s either 5-5 or 6-4 in Fei’s favor. Throwing palms for meter gets you fucked up by a chicken wing, s.hp xx rekkas.
Hey man instead of bitching and moaning like everyone on the internet I made a serious thread to try to gather as much information as possible and maybe help people get new ideas.
From what I understand Yun doesn’t have tools to handle divekicks himself, so Yang gives him some of his own medicine, plus the option to EX dash away from mixups helps Yang a lot.
Also against Zangief Yun cannot use divekicks at all as they get punish by SPDs so makes Zangief’s life way easier.
How much is Yun’s shoulder on block?
Couldn’t tell you.
Makoto does well against the twins, too, from what I understand.
Ken does ok. I still think it’s slightly in Yuns favor though.
Edit: He has could answers to dive kicks; st. mp, hp dp, ex dp, (kara versions of those dps as well) option select cr. tech hp and mp. He has an easier time with dive kicks in general, it’s really that simple as to why he does aight against Yun.
Well the “and why?” part is crucial because you need to know what to do in the match.
Same rason as Zangief, I assume. Dat karakara.
Gief, Fei, Yang, Sagat, Boxer, Dictator, Makoto, Ken, Rufus
I hear that if you block the dive kicks standing up to where it hits the head / most of the upper body it puts yun/yang at a 4 frame disadvantage.
I don’t think so. SPD is 2 frames and Yun doesn’t jump on Gief at all. Yet on Makoto he spams the divekicks like crazy.
Yang can punish with a short if that’s true.
I second that. I faced about 10 Yuns yesterday, and I was batting .600 w/ Ken. Took down #1 PSN Yun a couple times. +1 for best balanced Ken so far in series.
Yes it does
I just played a FT10 with TFA Ch3ckmate, against his Ryu and E. Ryu.
I lost 7-10 but a few of the losses were because of missed U2 fireball punishes.I did drop a bunch of BnBs because of Ryu’s hitbox too, always finish with lunge punch unless you KNOW dragon kicks will hit.
Against fireball heavy characters we HAVE to use U2 to cut off a big portion or their game, s.MP xx s.HP target combo is great against Ryu, counterhits fireballs and can whiff punish c.mk aswell. I’ll see if I can get someone to record and upload those matches.
yes, i agree i think ken does really good against yun, divekicks dont hurt him much and he has answers for almost everything yun does, love the hitbox on lp and target combo now.
From my very limited playing of the game I think Zangief, Thawk(HATE THIS MATCH), Balrog and Ken mess up Yun pretty badly.
The matchup between yun v. hawk is so scary(random) for Yun.
As yun, you can sit back and palm all day but whats the point in that if hawk just walks forward and blocks, slowly backing you into the corner. Pitting Hawk’s ground game against Yun’s, it doesn’t look so well for Yun.
Most of the time, the matchup is random when you take it to the air, but with hawk’s new ex condor dive, he might be able to punish dive kicks and maybe Ex lunge.
Gief, Hawk, Rog, from my experience.
i havent lost to a yun yet with ken, though i think i havent fought anyone really good too, tried zangief and did very good against them.
so… it seems that characters that can do good/ put a fight against yun are: **Balrog, Ken, Zangief, Fei, Blanka, THawk and Yang **maybe?
I’ve had some troubles with chun li from what I’ve been playing but not as much trouble as the characters you guys listed, guile gives me a lot of trouble too, though I haven’t had much trouble with Kens or Yangs
I have no idea what to do against Dee Jay. His upkicks beat all kind of wake up options. And when he’s zoning he can sweep your divekick attempts for days.