Your worst personal match ups

For some reason, Boxer murders me. Not just good boxers, terrible players that use Rog can usually pull one out on me as well. After Boxer, it would be Dictator, Yun and Rufus.

Grapplers.

Use st. MP OS Dash and Ultra 2. Ex Hayate when he whiffs. Once you’re in it’s like 10-0 in your favor.

I just started using makoto (dropped boxer) so far viper, zangief, adon are a problem for me but im still learning how to move with makoto.

BISON

Bison is a problem for me to

dat roundhouse

yea and when he gets that corner pressure going its a bitch lol

Bison isn’t too hard if you play patient at midrange. His corner pressure can be rough but after you block the first scissor kick, just press s.rh. It will stuff anything he attempts to follow up with. I like U2 in this match to shut down a lot of head stomp/Devil’s Reverse shenanigans.

ill try that , I need to use s.hk more.

I found a new problem guile lol I want to throw my tv out of the window.

One thing I’ve found is that if they catch on to the s.hk, they can just jump in instead. Does the s.hk stuff the next scissor kick too or only the pokes? I can’t remember. I’m thinking an ex scissor kick can also counter the s.hk.

Need to play pretty patient in this match. Walk them to the corner. Try not to focus absorb and dash forward into fierces. Use a lot of neutral jumps but feel free to block it if you see Guile walking in for a fierce. Use safe jumps when you can to keep pressure up after knockdowns.

It’ll stuff anything except EX Scissors/Crusha I believe. Of course, they can focus dash through it if they choose too. It’s not an end all solution, but it will make Bison start to think twice before mindlessly applying his corner pressure. You can take advantage of the hesitation to start making your own moves. The tides are always shifting and all that.

I was using s.hk on a bison player he stopped hitting buttons after lk scissors so I got to dash up and command grab him lol no one jumped in on me yet.

I know its such a pain. When im fighting a guile/chun and they walk behind.the fireball I just IAT and they stop.

I actually traded with his s.mk I think, prob hit s.hk a little late but I did beat the next scissors clean.

Even if you do trade with s.mk it’s definitely a winning trade for you.

Against bison :

  • crLK hayate / ex hayate punish HK and MK knee press on guard
  • buffed crMP hayate will stuff the starter of the knee press
  • jump MP is DA solution against the head stomp things
  • in the corner, just wait, guard, and anticipate bison to jump on you or head stomp. Just go with a dash to get out of the corner, and make him pay :slight_smile:
  • against psycho crusher (not ex), just block and go with fukiage => ~300 dmg for a blocked psycho crusher => he won’t do it again
  • st HK is indeed very well against him, but don’t abuse it : if he focus, you’re screwed
  • change position : as a charge character, setup like ex oroshi > dash > 6HK > jump mk (Xup) or HP is very effective
  • don’t forget character specific stuff (works on viper and bison) :
  • Bison in the corner : ex oroshi > dash x 2 > jump HP
  • Bison in the corner : ex oroshi > 6MK > jump HP
  • Bison in the corner : ex oroshi > dash x 2 > jump late tsurugi
  • the link MP > LP > HP works
  • the link MP > LP > crHP works

Against guile :

  • tsurugi setup works like a charm
  • ex oroshi > dash > 6HK > jump HP is very effective and beats flash kick
  • backthrow > dash > jump late tsurugi avoid flash kick
  • put him in the corner if you can, then tsurugi all day :slight_smile:

My worst personal matchup is (in order) :

  • T. Hawk
  • Ibuki (it WAS one of my worst, but now, I just HK allday and it works ^^)
  • Oro … wait … not the good game =/

Definitely T. Hawk, Adon, Balrog, Guy, Bison… I may have worse characters in terms of loss rate, but those are the ones that come to mind.