What kind of TV are you guys on?
I’m not talking specifically for lag or fighting games just in general. My tv is about 3 years old now and my contrast ratio is 500000:1, and the newest top of the line tvs are 25000000:1. So I kinda wanna upgrade to a Samsung 8000 series.
What do you guys have? Plasma? LED?
I have a Samsung LN32B550 32" LCD TV. Has no input lag on game mode (or almost none), from what I can tell with the Rock Band 3 Calibration Tool (consistently shows I have 0ms Audio and 0ms Video lag after running the test).
Also has 4 or 5 HDMI inputs, which is nice.
And the picture quality is great too.
I have a Dynex brand (best buy in-house brand) 720p 26" HD TV
One good thing about cheaper HD TVs very little Post processing, meaning almost no lag. I am talking less than 1 frame to 1 frame lag total. And excellent picture Quality.
What gives the most lag is image post processing.
All LCD TVs have various type of lighting
Pictures are for examples, not how the actual lighting element looks like behind the LCD screen.
Plasma
Plasma isn’t very good any more, it was all the rage when it was new in the late 90s. Problem is plasma is an excited gas that gives off light, and that gas will leak after a while and the plasma needs to be recharged. Issue is no one offers plasma recharging.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Plasma-lamp_2.jpg/200px-Plasma-lamp_2.jpg
Incandescent bulb
Uses up the most power and produces heat, isn’t used any more in Flat Screen Tvs
Burns out and must be replace often, only used now on older models LCD and projection TVs
Cold Cathode Ray Tube
(not to be confused with CRT screens which also stands for Cathode ray tube)
Were taking the same tubes used in PC case lighting. Requires a power inverter to step up the voltage
Not too energy effciant
http://chem.illinois.edu/clcwebsite/graphics/cathwlines2.gif
Fluorescent lamp
A fluorescent lamp or fluorescent tube is a gas-discharge lamp that uses electricity to excite mercury vapor. The excited mercury atoms produce short-wave ultraviolet light that then causes a phosphor to fluoresce, producing visible light.
http://www.allproducts.com/manufacture98/lylight/product1.jpg
LED
Light Emitting Diodes. The New standard as of some time last year when the Federal Government mandate new LCD TV sets have to be LED lit (Apparently). Or so As I been told.
Produces almost no heat, can stay lit almost forever, almost never burns out (well it eventually will decades down the road were taking 20 or more years).
uses the least amount of energy
http://www.ecotechninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/led-lights.jpg
I have a LG 55LX9500… and I love it 
I don’t know where you’re gettin those contrast #'s from though…
"we suggest you leave the dynamic backlighting switched on because it gets rid of clouding and improves the IPS display’s contrast ratio. It does such a good job, in fact, that it’s impossible to measure how deep the blacks are, meaning the contrast ratio is somewhere between 73000:1 and infinity"
that’s for my LG TV
the samsung 8000 series actually aint all that great on image quality etc…
"The D8000 reaches a contrast ratio of 3200:1, which puts it near the top of the table."
that’s for the samsung D8000 for example…
here’s an excellent site
Running a Panasonic TH-42PZ80 (plasma) along with a Sony HTCT350 sound bar (which has a built in amp + 3 hdmi inputs).
Have my computer (running an ATI HD5850) hooked up to the TV through the sound bar with HDMI so I can play PC games on my TV as well.
Couch gaming ftw.
And I dislike the current LCD TV’s (I’m making a distinction between TV’s and monitors in terms of screen size), I’ve yet to see a LCD TV that impressed me in picture and color quality compared to plasma TV’s.
True Plasma give a warmer color tone than LEDs.
That site is pretty good. Thanks for posting it.
I was originally looking at the Samsung UN55D8000Y, but I read a bunch of reviews on it and they were very mixed. Not the greatest picture quality.
What do you think about either of these tvs?
Those sharp TV’s are amazing, I would kill for one, but I am stuck with my samsung.
un46b800fx samsung. I love my tv you could not sit in front of my tv and not say the picture is incredible. im not saying there is not better, im just saying you cant say it does not look awesome… I dont play games on it. It has 2ms response time but it just bothers me playing on a big screen after converting to asus monitors. Even though it looks much nicer on my tv. 240hz super thin 1.6 inches. If i bought another tv it would probably be a sharp quatron 70’. However I dont plan on upgrading anytime soon.
I got the ASUS VH236H LCD.
When I have the room, I’m gonna gun for a nice plasma
There’s this other thread you might want to peruse too:
And this site actually tests for input lag:
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/
Currently in my room i use a Samsung 50C7000YF, i really dont use it for gaming…Just watching movies & all i can say it looks pretty damn amazing…I got it for my B-day last year & still pretty happy with it…Has 3D too…The only downfall is that i have to buy wifi dongle to have wireless streaming of Netflix etc…
32" LG350 is what i have on my Viewlix clone from Kray…I used that for gaming…Picture quality is average but the input lag when connected to VGA is probably the best one out that’s readily available still…
Hey guys,
I went ahead and got the Sharp 60 inch 835U and so far I’m unimpressed. The picture does not “pop” on HD channels, the standard def. for regular channels really hurts my eyes and the motion blur while watching football yesterday was pretty awful. Also, there was a significant amount of cloudiness. I’m thinking of returning it and getting the Samsung D8000.
Does anyone know how these two compare? How’s the lag on the Samsung 8000 for gaming? Will it also have the motion blur? Is this because its 240hz and not 600hz like plasmas?
Random question: I bought it this at Brandsmart. It doesn’t say anything about a restocking fee for open items on the receipt, but has anyone tried to return an open tv to Brandsmart? Any trouble?
Edit: I’m now looking at the Sony XBR-55HX929. Its a bit more expensive than I’d like to pay, but if it means the picture is that much better, then I’m all for it. I found a review on cnet and it looks pretty good. Anyone have any experience with this set?
Thanks.
I believe the 835u has about 30-33ms of lag, what settings are you using. As for the clouding, you can massage the clouded areas with a cleaning cloth to make it less visible. Plasmas in my opinion are better for handling motions in sports.
Thanks for the quick response. I haven’t played much of anything, as I just go the tv two days ago, but I think I’ve already decided to return it since the picture is sub-par for me.
Now I’m just looking for a tv that has little to no cloudiness, low lag time, and a solid picture. Its giving me the biggest headache trying to figure this shit out. I was up til 2am last night doing research.
I hear ya on that, you might want to check the AVSforums to help narrow down your decision. Also, CES 2012 is just around the corner. If your not in a hurry.
I use a Asus VH236 LCD monitor. It was definitely worth the $160 I paid for it.
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the sharp you posted have 4 frames(66ms) of lag and the LG 6 frames(99ms)
both are quite horrible for gaming.
this is for your TV
"By default, the television is in ‘Standard’ mode, and it doesn’t take an imaging professional to work out that the colour reproduction is absolutely disastrous. A closer look reveals that the gamma curve is uneven and the colour temperature is far too blue. We suggest you switch to ‘Film’ mode as soon as you can and turn off the extended colour space which contributes to the poor colour reproduction.
On the other hand, turning off the dynamic backlighting, which can help improve the picture, means the contrast ratio falls from 2400:1 to 1576:1, which results in blacks that look less deep
The AquoMotion 200 filter doesn’t do a particularly great job of smoothing out fast moving objects in films, and instead gives them a rather unpleasant camcorder look. We suggest you only use the ‘Scanning backlight 200’ mode, which adds a blank frame in between every other coloured frame by momentarily turning off the backlighting to simulate a 200 Hz refresh rate"
Uhh… the 835u has 33ms of lag on default settings in game mode.
As Sharp promised, the LE830 has a very responsive display. We measured a ghosting time of just 8.5 ms, which bodes well for 3D. For gamers, on the other hand, the bad news is that an input lag of 66 ms makes it hard to keep up.