I disagree. You’re giving assists way too much credit, making it sound like its a cakewalk when having them. Assists in this game like doom missiles and haggar lariat aren’t out for very long, and aren’t really THAT good either. Can’t function as a crutch in place of poor strategy or evasion techniques.
No one playing keep away in this game can ever rest on their laurals. Not with tools like teleports, divekicks from hell, fast air dashes and armored moves that can put an opponent in your face in a second. Once Haggar leaves and they’re still nearby and you don’t know how to evade? Thats a dead Arthur.
Not true, his mobility is pretty decent. He’s only lacking a standing dash(something a good Arthur won’t really need), and he more than makes up for it with his great double jump and jumping S.
A rock? LOL you guys seriously underrate his ability, or just don’t know how to make optimal use of what he has.
My Arthur is like a Ninja. Diving into the fray when the situation calls for it, ducking, weaving, striking fast, and then getting the hell outta there and laying down cover fire. All comes from my experience playing him on point and having him scrapping on the frontlines of every battle.
Doom, Anyone with a horizontal assist, Someone with a good DHC, someone with a meter building assist, any assist that covers super jump space, etc. Arthur can cover his assists really well at full screen. Just don’t play him on anchor. Please don’t.
Actually, he has the slowest walk speed with anyone that doesn’t have a Double Jump, Air Dash or teleport. Which makes his maneuvering even worse. Super jumping with arthur with missiles behind it is a good way to get out, though. Jumping S is NOT A MOVEMENT OPTION. Neither is his double jump. His double jump is for getting out of incoming mixups and faking J.S.
BTW, do you wan’t to play some matches? I wan’t to see what my team would be like against a hawkeye and doom. Apparently morrigan has a shitty time with hawkeye so idk. I guess I will have to take out hawkeye first. My GT is Steelguttey on XBOX. I don’t have a PS3.
lol it is for me. C’mon you gotta make use of all the tools your given, and when things don’t work out like you want, FORCE them too with sheer willpower and unconventional tactics.
Jumping S is used for quick movement around the stage, surprise offensive, mindgames, and running away. Just now i had a match-up with an aggressive Wesker player and i swear you could hear the Benny Hill theme as we were constantly diving around each other. Although unlike that player, i was trying just as much to get in on him as well as get away.
Eventually i got lucky and landed one, launching him into an air combo + OTG super and destroyed the bugger. That was pretty risky though as the timing for a launch after landing jumping S is weird, so if i’d whiffed it he could have launched and killed me.
Often i try to land with a few L’s and M’s to hit confirm before the launch, but sometimes in the heat of battle i’m trigger happy and go straight for the launcher.
Same here. Not playing anymore tonight though, but later.
It moves you around the screen slower than thor’s wavedash. Oh and did you know that if you are blocking Hulk’s meteor super you can punish it with c.H? That’s fun times. People don’t know how good of a poke that move is. The problem with J.S is that you cannot do anything with it if they arent on the ground. Thats arthur’s main problem up close. You have to not let them get on the air cause arthur cant convert off of shit air to air.
Well, we have two things here. Clearly we have a fundamental difference in opinion as to how big an impact assists have in matches. That’s fine, though. No way to come to a consensus on that.
The second thing, however, is a point of agreement. Both you and I agree that no matter where Arthur is on a team, he MUST keep moving and keep doing his Arthur thing. The only disagreement here is that I believe Arthur is left at a disadvantage when it comes to mobility, whereas you’ve taken his lemons and turned them into lemonade. Tip of the hat to you, sir.
Honestly, I’m just happy there are so many people playing Arthur and feel so strongly about him.
No. There arent. Right now there are like, four people on this site that actively watch this thread. I remember when we didn’t have a new post on the forums for like, three weeks. Shit was that bad.
I can’t see deadpool and arthur working. Like Arthur gets nothing from Deadpool’s dhcs and Deadpool doesn’t get much from daggers since deadpool already creates his own mixups.
Not true. When i’m mixing it up and on the offensive with Arthur, i nail people in the air with Jumping S all the time. Sure you can’t combo off of it, but its still a hit and disrupts whatever air game they were planning. Not much damage but it all adds up.
Sometimes it boils down to a battle of attrition.
Like i said earlier, willpower, mindgames, and unconventional tactics to make things work. Been doing it for years in other games where my favorite characters happened to be lower-tier.
Lack of interest is par for the coarse regarding low tiers. Eh I’m used to flying the Arthur flag all by myself.
Honestly despite being devoted to Arthur, I dont bother checking around in here sometimes because I never see any new tech or anything so theres never reason to check back.
P.S: I forgot to post this when I uploaded it, but heres my new Gold Armor BnB:
Anyone have recordings of their amazing Arthur gameplay? It seems like some folks here think they know how to use him right. I’m particularly interested in a video of Arthur backed by Dark Harmonizer, if someone has one.
Al_Rikir, I notice that you have Dante on your team now (wasn’t your Vanilla team Trish/Tron/Arthur? It’s been a while since we played). What are your thoughts on the Dante/Arthur combination? I’m thinking about using Ghost Rider / Dante / Arthur for an alt team.
Oh yeah I switched out Trish for Dante. The changes to Tron forced me to adjust a little.
Dante/Arthur works quite well. Jam Session is great for zoning with Arthur. Its also good for lockdown if youre up close, the high/low with Arthur is pretty much Magneto level once you froce someone to block. Daggers is good for Dante to get in, but kind of slow so you cant inplement Teleport + Disruptah type mixups.
So do you typically DHC Arthur in to get Dante last?
Also, what is typical follow-up when you DHC to Gold Armor through a hard knockdown? Obviously Fire Bottle, but then what? It seems like Arthur has some high hitstun stuff he can do to extend in most situations. At least I saw something of that sort once on a stream.
And im not to sure what you mean by DHCing to Gold Armor through a hard knockdown. Can you give me a specific example of who youre DHCing from?
On high hitstun stuff, Scythe, Gold Axe, and Heavenly Slash all have a set amount of hitstun that they cause, so if you can loop these you can get more damage.
How does Arthur do Magneto-like mixups? If he does, then I need to get on that ASAP.
Also, does anyone use Hulk/Arthur? They work almost too well together. Their DHCs and assists can work both ways to help the other character. Hulk’s game is greatly improved by Daggers, and Arthur’s is improved by either of Hulk’s armored assists. Between them you can:
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[]Gamma Tsunami->DHC to Arthur to bring Arthur in fullscreen with a frame advantage
[]Bracelet->Gamma Tsunami to bring Hulk in and do some insane corner carry
[]Finish combos with Bracelet->Gamma Crush in the corner to deal huge damage
[]Armor->Gamma Crush to get Arthur the hell out if he needs to
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Now I just need a third assist for the two of them. Ideas?