Damage means shit, it’s the frames, anyone who does not understand that needs to gtfo.
No need to have your mind blown over scrubs thinking stupid shit, Yang got nerfed harshly, but he’s not t.hawk or some douche character, so w/e.
It would take forever to buff everyone to that kinda level…would it of been nice? He’ll yea! But it’s not realistic considering it’s Free, and we most certainly wouldn’t be gettin it so early. People apparently have trouble seeing the big picture, and imagining just what that would take with some of the low characters…and then there would have to patch the patch later to fix the new broken matches which are impossible to thoroughly test for w/Devs. Time is money…
Time is money, but changes on paper are cheap, and altering of programming is not excessive. I’ve dealt in computer coding, so I know what goes into it.
They purposely did NOT buff every character up to the S tier’s stature because ultimately they want a competitive fighter that everyone can get into.
Ono himself, among other fighting game makers have said they want to ‘appeal to the mass’.
It makes sense, more people = more money, so why make a super fast game with 3f moves when you can slow it down slightly to allow more casuals to still excel?
In a perfect world we could access each and every change that goes into each and every fighter, but at the end of the day the game is a BUSINESS. It’s sad but true, so we have to enjoy what we get.
Ah I see you have you’re theory and youre mind about that made up. Funny when these masses you speak of are *largely done w/this game…since you know this classifies as “old” to them. Any way you look at it it’s NOT cheap, look at how many months went by before people discovered vanilla Cammys or Adons Super potential…and that was the Masses not a small number of Devs. If you can’t realize some characters would need a Vast amount of extra tools to get to that level, and that extra tools= a literal countless number of variables/situationals among a matchup of 40 characters I have nothing to tell you.
As you said it’s a business, although they take suggestions into consideration they’re not our “buddy”. That level of man hours is not being put into a “old” game for free.
Yang’s bnb is so bad now. If I stay with him I’ll have to work so so hard just win a match. The Zangief match has to be a 0-10 now that his damage is so bad. We will loose to time out lol.
Take everything, just not his already below damage. Please Capcom don’t make him irrelevant. That means AE was a troll. They add in 4 characters, 3 of witch suck now, and they make many changes back to super. Shoulda stayed with super! rawr!
- Damage isn’t the issue. He now is able to punish less stuff, thanks to s. LK nerf. Dive Kick nerf and, again, s.LK nerf mean he’s worse at mid range, so there’s less of an opportunity for damage. Nerf on Senkyutai, and DP FADC mean it’s a lot harder to get in on fireballs. I know, I have shit reactions, but a lot of times, I would use DP knowing it was too late to punish a fireball, but good enough to get in before the opponent could throw out another move to stop it… FADC, and I’m in. Like against Guile. That’s gone now.
It’s overall much harder to get in, and now once you get in, you do less damage.
Rom, you’re talking from the standpoint of Yang just being in there, ignoring the fact that his tools to get in got nerfed. Yeah he still has Low Forward, and that’s great, but a nerf to Stand Short, Dive Kick and cross-up is gonna have a significant effect on the chances Yang will be able to create. Is it the end of the world? No. Is it more of an issue than you’re making it out to be by just focusing on damage? Definitely.
- To the guy that said buffing the rest of the cast would take too ling, the vast majority of us have had AE for less than 3 months. They could have waited on the update.
Lol was I wrong in thinking Ono said he wanted to “take time” with the patching to get it right?
Less than a month later and here are a huge amount of changes and it already has a release period (this fall if I’m correct on reading) and only a small amount of Loc test. If I remember correctly blazblue 2 had quite a few amount of test and several several tweaks happened at all of them.
I agree Yun should’ve got more nerfs than Yang. Just have to wait and see what happens in the final product, though I think the twins still are viable in terms of match-ups overall. For example, characters such as guile didn’t really get anything in 2012; just semi-reversed back to Super.
ps from capcom
Just to shit on you guys some more yang has 950 stun, kk thx bye.
fuck them, honestly fuck them all. Yang future is so bleak right now, so so bleak.
Fuck and I recently picked up Yang as an alternate :lol:.
I’ll still use him even with the changes. Fun character to learn and play (for me).
s.lk nerf is going to hurt Yang’s game…big time.
Even with all the Yang nerfs, I still think he’ll be really solid. His pressure is still good and safe.
man, i don’t even want to comment on these nerfs anymore. let’s just see if all of them will stick or whatnot.
rose:
crouch fierce xx drill = 200
close stand mp, crouch mp xx drill = 210 (1f link)
hey, you asked. lol.
Are you serious? Lol poor Rose.
You kidding right?
yeah. haha.
for that matter the most makoto can do without meter (or a huge opening for IATsrugi / lv2 crumple):
karakusa, stand hp HC stand mp xx mp hayate = 238 for a 1 frame hayate cancel link
Ok now you’ve gone too far. Don’t EVER bringo Makoto to a low damage discussion!
Err…Isn’t that obvious?
Wouldn’t know. What with everyone making an online petition for everything.
Cause people are to lazy to walk around to get signatures nowadays.