Xbox One PadHack Thread - Calling the goons "Toodles, Gummowned, Phreak and You" Do it for the Kids

Just checked voltage and it is 3.75 unpressed, 0 pressed, just like the other buttons when pressed
still shows held down with new USB cable

Hey guys, I think I almost got it. Got everything wired up and almost everything works correctly. Except when I go into KI training mode, I canā€™t get RB or LB to register as an input (went for 6 buttons instead of the 8). Weird thing is, RB and LB work perfectly fine in the menu. I can even go into button config and set them to a button. But for whatever reason, even with input display onā€¦ RB and LB never register at all. Itā€™s as if I didnā€™t push anything. Another thing I noticed is, when I leave input display on, back out of practice mode, and go back inā€¦ as soon as I enter practice mode RB and LB both register at the same time onceā€¦ without me pushing anything. Then I can never get them to register again. Is it safe to assume that RB and LB are constantly being pressed? Just seems weird though that I can navigate through the in-game menus just fine with RB and LB.

Also, another thing thatā€™s happening, and Iā€™m assuming itā€™s related, in the xbox interface, whenever I want to select something I have to double tap A very quickly. For instance, I can hold the guide button and it brings up the option to turn off console. I canā€™t just hit A on that option. If I just tap A once, a little black outline shows up on the option and goes away. But if I double tap A quickly or mash A then it will select it.

Hope someone knows what this is and hope itā€™s an easy fix. Thanks for your help guys.

Are the others 3.75v unpressed too?

Same thing was happening to me and Grammaton.
My issue was it was pressing the view button over and over again (if you bind it to taunt or something in KI you should see your character taunt over and over again). I was able to fix it by using a different usb cable.

I think Grammatonā€™s was to do with his triggers being pressed.

Check again, i had updated the image on page 8 (and anywhere else linking it) to show the new trigger spots.

Yep. So I took some pics so I can have a 2nd opinion. I should try hooking up the old (ruined) pad to the xbone and see what happens.


Note that these pics show the wires unsoldered, yet they still show held down in game.

Hm. Iā€™m using the cable that came with the play and charge kit so I wouldnā€™t think there should be an issue with the cable. It works perfect with the xb1 pad. And I didnā€™t even bother with wiring triggers.

Iā€™m starting to think that maybe the RB and LB buttons are constantly activating somehow. When I first enter practice mode, it shows HP+HK (which is what my RB and LB are mapped to) one time and thatā€™s without hitting any buttons. Then after that I canā€™t get HP or HK to register again.

What would be a way for me to find out if I did something wrong? I desoldered the RB and LB buttons off of the PCB and connected my wires according to your guide. Soā€¦ it should work. But I canā€™t even tell if itā€™s actually the RB and LB buttons that are at fault. Any tips?

If your seeing HP+HK when you start practice mode but nothing happens when you press them again then that seems like theyā€™re being held down. Its odd though that your not seeing anything odd when pressing them in the dashboard, unless, them both being held is canceling them both out so your dashboard doesnā€™t move or something.

Can you put pics of the bottom and top of the RB/LB spots?

Chaotic just so you know thereā€™s 2 different images of the PCB with 2 different spots for LB/RB. You might want to fix that in your recent posts.

Yeah thatā€™s the weird thingā€¦ in the xbox menus RB and LB work perfectly fine. I can use them like normal. When I first plugged my stick in, before I got to KI I thought everything was perfectā€¦ but was dealing with the weird A button thing where I have to mash on the button to select anything. I could even navigate the KI menus fine with RB and LB, itā€™s just when I get into the actual game itā€™s doing what I described above.

Yeah Iā€™ll try to get pics here asap. I finally have a multimeter so Iā€™m going to check the connections and find out wtf is going on. Thanks for your help again.

Ok, update. I disconnected the data connectors from the buttons for RB and LBā€¦ whenever I enter training mode it still shows the HP+HK when I first enter. And I still get the weird issue where I have to mash the A button to select things in the xbox menus.

Double update. I disconnected almost every button in my hitbox. Iā€™m still getting the RB and LB problem. I took my multimeter, set it on continuity, and touched one probe to RB contact, the other to the ground contact, and I get no beep. I was thinking that if I had a short somewhere then I would probably get a beep on the continuity test. But I get nothing. Same with the LB contact. Ugh.

Top pic, all I have for now. Iā€™ll have to remove all of the hot glue before I can take a pic of the bottom. I no longer think itā€™s an issue with the RB and LB buttons though. Continuity tests fine with a multimeter for those.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4105/f0d8.jpg

Bottom pic

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/2213/89zn.jpg

This is hard to diagnose without proper drivers to view whatā€™s actually being pressed. Itā€™s showing a face button being pressed but it could in reality be something else, like a screwed up right analog stick signal since killer instinct uses the right analog for multiple button inputs and whatnot.

You could try doing something like remapping things to taunt until you find the actual signal thatā€™s being considered held. I donā€™t remember what limitations you have in training mode, itā€™s been a while since Iā€™ve booted it up.

clayton
if its the analog stick
i will kiss you

Please list what each direction the right analog stick does with default controls

Actually, found this on the DH forums:


Up does both heavies, left and right do both mediums, and down does both lights. You can throw with down and do counter breakers with left or right. 

I might have glued the analog sticks poorly and slightly to the left/right
You are a genius

I tried taking a look at your dropbox images to see if it was obviously tilted but itā€™s hard to see with the angles and whatnot. I hope thatā€™s the issue. If itā€™s not the glue it could be something to do with cutting the tips, maybe it rebounded with a lot force and put it off center even before you glued it. Be real careful with that, iā€™d use a dremel for a smooth and no-force cut.

To date, I havenā€™t actually glued the analog cubes save for one that was in obvious danger of potentially being touched, I cut it with heavy diagonal cutters and then made sure they were dead center before putting just some glue. The reason is that the spring action on the metal enclosure is quite stiff, youā€™d really be hard pressed to move it while playing, and thereā€™s a bit of neutral dead zone before any sort of engagement. Thus far, no complains on random inputs, but if there are thatā€™s an easy fix :stuck_out_tongue:

Alternatively, if thereā€™s a way to do it, perhaps you can find a control scheme that ignores the right analog, if it clears your issue up thatā€™s the obvious problem.

Good call!
Hey, Chaosphere, since you worked on your right analog stick how much you wanna bet its actually that and not LB/RB! Test it, go into KI and remap LB/RB to something else then go back in training, if you still see HP+HK then its your analog not the buttons

where at?


Not sure where the 2nd one is hosted but if its yours you should trash it

Ya, that user took mine and drew the red squares and posted it so canā€™t control it :frowning: asked him to remove it via pm

Hell yes that has to be it. Right analog up will break heavies so that IS it.

Hm maybe I donā€™t know what I should be soldering to. I just assumed the right analog worked like the left analog and soldered the outside pads to the middle pads with the resistors in between. Hopefully that makes sense.

Any suggested fixes? Were my assumptions correct on how to solder the resistors to the right analog?

Keep in mind you lifted the trace pads up on topā€¦ I would be willing to bet you didnt get a good connection with the tiny bit of trace you had to work with. test it, and desolder and clean it if neededā€¦ try to get a good connection and follow the directions gummo posted. (which you probably did)

also be VERY careful there. There are tiny surface mounted components surrounding those points and if you arent careful, you can overheat and they can shift off the contacts.