I’m pretty sure that anyone who even casually follows comics has to cede that The Flash is pretty much the most O.P. Earthling if not the mostvO.P. dude in the entire universe.
Being able to pass through solid objects was bad enough.
Be8ng able to pull off the ending of Superman 1, without even leaving the atmosphere is all sorts of lololololol.
Really pretty much the only thing keeping Barry from reaching godhood, is Barry.
Dude is too down to Earth, centered, and sane for that.
How Quicksliver doesn’t get more respect in the comic books, is beyond me.
His dad is Mags.
And his sister - his twin sister - is all sorts of Omega Levels of broken.
Scarlet Witch is probably some other tier above and beyond Omega, actually.
Marvel needs to flesh him and his powers out more.
As it stands, he’s pretty much the Morph* of his immediate gene pool.
*Am fully aware of his being a non-character. That’s the joke. (child me nerd raged hard at his being created for the show, far worse even than Wolvie’s anemic healing).
I do agree the best might well be First Class. I AM kind of partial to Days of Future Past too though (even if when it comes to X-Men films as a whole, X2 has a lot of good memories), and The Wolverine was better than I thought it’d be.
DoFP felt like a Roger Moore James Bond movie from the 80s. Like you get some action, some humor bits but you never really take it seriously. First Class was alright and got a free pass because there was a new cast and the Xavier/Eric relationship carried the movie. Other than that, movie is also sorta B movie type, not Green Lantern/Iron Man 2 levels but not great either. The last action sequence of First Class is pretty dope actually.
X2 actually felt like a comic book movie where everything gets portrayed truthfully to the source material while keeping it realistic for a live action movie. Maybe the secret to all good “comic book” movies is to try to make a decent solid movie first (as in good plot, pace and lines) AND THEN focusing on the hero stuff. I feel like the major failures on this genre (FF4, BvS, GL, X3, etc) started trying to go beyond these factors. “Oh you know what would be sick? To have these two fight against each other at the end! Let’s just make up dialogue for 80 mins so we can shoot that fighting scene” “Everyone loves Phoenix, let’s just have it destroy stuff and have Wolverine kill her, we’ll put boring ass scenes in between to set that up”
(It’s rather sad that the 90s X-Men cartoon, for all of its flaws, is probably still the best representation of them around. At least we got X-23 out of X-Men Evolution though.)
I’ll agree that X2 is probably the best in overall aspects. I must admit, however, that I still honestly just like better Days of Future Past between it completely disavowing X3andWolverine: Origins simultaneously and also showing how broken someone with super speed & no actual drawback should be even though Quicksilver was apparently added last minute.
Too bad X-Men: Apocalypse seems intent on killing all goodwill I had from that movie by making this a Jennifer Lawrence vehicle with a large side of tiresome “destruction porn” as filler.
Agreed. It also helps that her actress, Antje Traue, seemed skilled and acted appropriately for the scenes she was in rather than Cavill’s generally flatter acting and Shannon’s generally campier acting.
It also doesn’t hurt that she is very nice to look at…unless you’re odin, who apparently has the “misfortune” of supposedly having a lot of cousins who look like her:
I’m not sure whether you mean in-universe or out of universe, but in-universe, Pietro’s own worst enemy when it comes to respect is really himself since he comes off as tremendous asshole a lot of the time. To be fair to the man, he’s not nearly as evil as he should be most of the time between the fact that Mags was a hella abusive father figure to him during most of their interactions–especially in the Ultimate universe, dear gods–and the fact that he’s basically living the Flash’s worst fear daily. By the latter, I mean the fact that the drawback to his power is that everything else moves at slow speed to him, constantly. I honestly don’t know how he’s not outright insane, really, though I could say that about a lot of comic book characters, so whatever.
For what it’s worth, he was more powerful than Wanda for the longest while before Disassembled happened, which broke-up The Avengers in-comic and was part of what led to the shitty comic book version of Civil War (I). All Wanda used to have was far more unassuming “probability manipulation” over relatively minor aspects rather than out-and-out greater “reality manipulation”; most of her actual power came from training in actual magic, which is basically “reality manipulation” anyway given pretty much no comic book (and the majority of other fictional work) never fully explain (or even appear to think out) their systems of how magic actually work behind the scenes. So he’s only been “weak” compared to her for about a decade or so. It’s just that said decade was arguably been the most noticeable one for comics as a whole after Iron Man the movie kicked off the comic-book movie revolution. That and the fact that pretty much everyone looks like dog-shit compared to The Flash at his strongest levels.
Given I don’t read super-hero comic books anymore, though, I’m not even sure if Pietro is a) even alive in them still and b) currently still lacking his super-powers of super speed. Does anyone actually know? Or do I have to devil-summon @RockBogart into this thread with doomed hopes he’ll tell us?
Seriously, though, is Quicksilver even alive in the comic-books? You’d actually think he’d be the safest mutant, technically, given that he’s only one who had a children with an inhuman, but given how poorly that relationship ended…
So, uh…I don’t get it. At the end of DOFP, Mystique (posing as Stryker) rescues Wolverine from the river…only to have Wolvie end up being captured/experimented by the real Stryker anyway. Like WTF SINGER?
Still waiting on that breakthrough Cyclops performance which will sadly never happen.
