(Yeah, The Flash is busted. I don’t think anyone who knows anything about him would disagree on this except for maybe Batman or Superman (or Green Lantern?) groupies.)
Even baseline Quicksilver would likely be problematic plot-wise depending on what the problem in the plot is, but The Flash even at his just “runs very fast and doesn’t have any other completely broken powers” higher speed limit is already 100 times worse even before you bring the Speed Force bullshit into the equation. It’s why if I ever do superhero stuff, then speedsters either fault aren’t existing or have some type of (serve) drawback that’s actually a drawback.
The only series I can think of that handled people with super-speed well was/is Worm, where the one character who has super-speed is hindered by having his mass become inversely proportional to his speed, so he basically comes off as an annoying if strong and persistent gust of wind the faster he goes. This as opposed to other characters with super-speed who should be able to murder like half a dozen people in the blink an eye like how Faora-Ul did in Man of Steel and generally be unstoppable by most people in general, super-powered or not, if they’re competent; gods, Faora-Ul was the one of the few good things about that terrible movie.
I thought after DoFP they were going to introduce some “secondary effects” of Quicksilver’s super speed, a cardiac problem for example (“running so fast is destroying you”), to limit his powers and making him a little more interesting. They didn’t. Don’t know how to feel
(Worm is independently written and not a comic book, @maxx.)
Here: https://parahumans.wordpress.com/. It’s currently free, but mindful that it’s long. I got over a million words into it before pausing last November and I still need to finish it, so…yeah.
It’s first point of view and the main character’s powers are related to bugs; the speedster guy that I mentioned doesn’t really play much of a role in to be honest. I was just using the one example I could think of the top of my head where someone with super-speed wasn’t implicitly broken.
Finished it. Movie was trash. 5 out of 10 just cause. Probably a 2 or 3 is more accurate.
I dont even know where to start, nor do i care to be honest.
One thing is for sure, when you dont know what youre doing with your franchises, you dont have an epic build up since xmen first class to the point you get to now with AoA. They took a major deal arc like dofp and turned it into nonsense. Then they took one of the biggest xmen arcs ever, and just turned it into a completely useless cluster fuck.
234 million dollar budget for those horrible graphics too. LMFAO. Where did the budget go to? The actors? HORRIBLE CGI.
HAHA, this has a 7.6 on rotten tomatoes, because guys, remember, that site is so reliable for valid opinions.
**The only way you can like this movie, is if youre straight up retarded, or the most you know about xmen is there is a bald guy, and you dont give a shit other than that. **
Faora was probably the best representation of what super speed would look like to a normal human being. I actually liked that quite a bit. One of the few interesting things that movie did.
First Class was a better origin story for Xavier and Magneto than the shit we see in the comics.
Days of Future Past was way better than the comics, it felt like the climax of the film series.
Apocalypse is… um… entertaining at best. It could have been way better. There’s not much deep to it and it feels a little redundant considering the past two films. And it’s by no means the “definitive origin” of characters like Cyclops, Jean or Storm, sadly; those characters simply fail to engage.
But Wally can cuz Wally. Also being a likeable character alongisde some pseudoscience BS to try to explain what happens helps. This movie, nor DoFP, had neither and didn’t even bother in the slightest to try to have a coherent screenplay.
Anyway…
They made Fassneto suck ass in this movie. Other horsemen sucked as well, barely characters. Apoc is laughable, poor Oscar Isaac. Movie is straight up garbage.
I’ve seen a lot of ppl online talk about the film actually being good, how great the effects were or how good the story and acting is.
I’ve come to the conclusion that those kind of people have accepted the fact that this series has been stuck in the early 2000s since inception and they revert to that time period to judge these movie instead of dealing with the fact of how far CBM have actually come in a decade.
Not only are these movies suppose to be connected to the old trilogy, but they feel like they were made back then as well
The movie is entertaining, but mostly forgettable.
Here’s some annotations about the Fox film series:
[list][*] Their characters are supposed to be less heroic and more grounded, they’re nowhere as the Avengers in “levels of heroism”, they’re mostly regular guys and teenagers without any semblance of backstories that are “damned” with powers and sometimes incur in heroics, not really full-time superheroes. Their stories and personalities are not inspiring.
[*] Fox’s producers never work with attention on detail like Marvel does. With Marvel, you have writers, producers, directors and even actors contributing to make the stories better and set things up for the future. And there’s a boss overseeing everything. They completely nail what the characters are supposed to represent, their motivations and personalities. That’s why they do DEFINITIVE cinematic portrayal of the characters. With Fox, the characters are mostly a blank slate; that’s why they manage to transform Mystique so much between one and another movies.
[*] Marvel has a plan. That’s why they can announce 8 films to come in the following three years or so. With Fox they pretty much do the things on the run depending on which movies are succesful and which are not. After DoFP’s, Apocalypse was hurrily announced and they had roughly one year to complete the writing, casting, production and everything else. That’s why the movie is so irregular, the script and production could have been much better if they did everything on time. And well, continuity… The Wolverine’s ending is somewhat contradicted by First Class, and First Class’s ending is contradicted with this movie. It’s hard to take this “foreseeings” seriously.[/list]
I love the X-Men series for what it is, and there are great things on it (Days of Future past is the best comic book movie ever), even when some others could have been better. And this movie is definitely not bad… but it’s forgettable. Hope the next entry is a tighter movie.
No, that’s what I’m saying. I expect the next movie to be better. Not to be like in the comics. I’m a big comic book fan but I can accept the movies having their own take. Now if you say the movies are bad because Xavier doesn’t lose his legs because of an alien demon threw a stone at him, gtfo lol.
It’s kind of funny. Growing up I found the X-Men comics to be cool and edgy, while the Avengers comics were very lame in comparison and pretty boring.
With the movies, it’s completely the opposite.
No Spoilers but, Quicksilver is badass!! That is way too much unchecked power & ability from one person.
Seriously…a mind-controlled or evil Quicksilver not holding back whatsoever? He kills 95% of the X-Men AND the Avengers EASILY. Thor, wolverine, etc, only characters with high-level healing or durability could survive.
Everyone else? F’in DEAD.
Even your strong telepath characters like Professor X. Before they even realize what has happened and could attempt to lock-on and mind-control him, he would have already killed 80% of the mansion and possibly planted a bomb or something, and then raced out. Quicksilver’s sheer reaction time and, that he CAN THINK and plan his moves every bit as fast, is just BROKEN.
Just thinking of the possibility makes me take notice of other characters who are supposed to be even faster, like the Flash.
Why does Fox/Marvel stick B. Singer with the X-Men. I really would like to see someone else take on the mutants.
also i’m a huge comic Storm fan, did she get a decent portrayal in this film?
