Dark Phoenix should NEVER be adapted for movies. It’s honestly not worth the effort. The X-Men have far more, and honestly better stories that are far more palatable for Big Screen treatment.
I doubt we’ll see Jean Grey in the X-Men MCU reboot.
Except Jean Grey is a part of the X-men the way Captain America and Iron man is apart of the Avengers.
Shes a senior, leading member of the team and a founding member
You know it IS possible to use Jean and tell stories with her without using the Phoenix in any capacity right?
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Feige is supposedly working on a Fantasic Four. If F4 is getting another shot, Jean Grey certainly will.
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What does she have other than being the Phoenix and a love interest?
Just saw it today and I’m starting to think the marvel bias/shilling is real. While it wasn’t the. greatest , it was definitely better than people are giving it credit for. Hell I’d put it up against quite a few marvel movies. It was a hell of a lot better than Captain Marvel. I’m actually disappointed that xmen are going back to marvel. Not because I like the Fox X-Men so much but because the more variety the better. Even if fox xmen may have had more misses than hits it’s nice to have a different interpretation of these properties.
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But I don’t think the general audience has shown much interest in her.
Marvel dropped Gwen Stacy, Mary-Jane and JJ Jameson (and radically altered Aunt May) because they were already too burnt for the audience. And things seem going well.
That would be up to the writers to decide. Quite a few characters in the last two decades have gone from two dimensional jokes to well fleshed out characters. If you don’t want Jean to be simply the Phoenix or the center of the Cyke/Wolvie dick measuring contest…you simply don’t write her that way and give her something else to do. But apparently giving an extremely strong (even without Phoenix powers) and compassionate telepath something to do is too hard for writers.
Marvel dropped JJ at the moment because Peter doesn’t need a job. He basically had a rich benefactor in Tony, and Aunt May could take care of herself. One could argue the other reason is that obviously Newspapers don’t mean shit in today’s day and age, but PS4 Spidey showed that he can still have value as a Radio Show host doing essentially the same things but that works better for white noise in gaming rather than a movie.
Gwen Stacy was burnt…how? She barely got to do anything to be burnt. She didn’t exist in the original trilogy, and was actually arguably the most well liked character in TASM’s two movies before being killed off because “that’s what the comics did”. MJ was going to be in those movies as well until they cut out her role twice in a row because MJ really has no place in a Gwen Stacy focused movie.
Now if we’re talking “Well the general audience doesn’t care about Jean” well sure…but the general audience doesn’t care about anything beyond the principle 3 X-Men characters at this point with Xavier, Mags and now Logan. Wolverine is beyond burnt out and Fass Mags has been playing the same character for 4 movies now. Seriously, his role hasn’t changed whatsoever. Xavier is in this weird spot where in the original trilogy he was indisposed three consecutive times so he was never made to be overly front and center, and in the First Class timeline he was actually allowed to evolve his character each movie so he never got boring. Keep in mind that Xavier is generally as one-note a character as they come (hence his involvement being kept to a minimum in the original trilogy) but still serves a vital role.
If you WANT a character to have an interesting role outside of a niche, then you write them to do that. Otherwise you end up with what the First Class timeline turned out to be. A bunch of character stereotypes hitting their one note over and over again and never evolving to be anything beyond that outside of Xavier.
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At least his movies made a lot of money, unlike Jean’s 
And yeah, I think they’ll move beyond Magneto at least for a while.
But… does Marvel WANT to do that? I think Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel are kind of similar to Jean and Phoenix already… do they really need her?
She spent like 15 years dead in the comics last time, and everything seemed to work rather well…
I mean I’m not gonna say what Marvel wants to do with the X-Men. I don’t even think they know what they want to do yet. I just don’t think Jean is such a lost cause without the Phoenix role.
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Jean definitely isn’t the most popular x-men(without dark Phoenix), but look at Hawkeye and black widow in MCU lol. They won’t cut her.
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We haven’t had a box office failure movie starring either of them.
In the end, I do think we’ll see Jean Grey in the MCU reboot, likely from the first movie, but I think they will radically alter her and her role in this version.
I hope they do alter her radically. Add cyclops to that alteration as well. Both are boring as fuck and cykes was only cool when he went fuck the humans.
What I meant is that Jean probably won’t be part of the team.
The movie looked like a piece of shit from the first trailer. The production trouble, first time director and apocalypse being shit didn’t do it any favors. Blaming the movie on the character is insane.
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I’m not saying the character’s to blame, but general audience will relate the character with failure. That’s not good marketing.
If that were true than Wolverine would stop getting solo movies after X-Men Origins.
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Just because Fox movie writers only watched the cartoons and never read the comics.
Because Fox don’t know how to write women characters as a whole.
Jean’s power set, basically telepathy and telekinesis
Full List, without the Phoenix
Summary
Empathy: Jean Grey can sense, alter and manipulate the feelings and emotions of others
Telepathy: Read thoughts and minds, project her own thoughts, affect the minds of humans and animals with higher order intelligence
Telepathic Defense
Telepathic Cloak: caam mask her presence and the use of her abilities from being detected by other psions and psychic entities. She can extend these defenses to others around her as well.
Cloak Mind: Ability to rearrange the “mental engrams” of mutants so their distinctive mutant thought patterns cannot be detected by Cerebro-type devises or by other telepaths.
Telepathic Illusions: She can create realistic telepathic illusions and cause people to experience events which are not actually occurring
Telepathic Camouflage: She can alter the apparent physical appearance of herself and other people by altering the perceptions of those around her. This can go so far as to make other people believe that the camouflaged people are not there (invisible).
Telepathic Manipulation
Memory Alteration: She can erase, implant, restore or alter the memory of others.
Mind Control: She can control the thoughts and actions of others
-Mind Possession: She can possess the mind of another, and use that being’s body as her own
Personality Alteration: She can alter the minds of others by force of will, thus permanently changing their personality partially or entirely.
Mental Paralysis: She can induce temporary mental or physical paralysis
Mental Amnesia: She can erase any awareness of particular memories or cause total amnesia
Mind Transferral: She can transfer both her mind and powers into other host bodies if her own physical body was somehow killed
Heal Trauma: She has the ability to erase a person’s memories and to heal mental trauma through “psychic surgery,” as well as the power to stimulate or deaden the pain and pleasure centers in a person’s brain
Mental Sedating: Can telepathically “sedate” her victims so that, if already rendered unconscious, they remain so for as long as she continues to “sedate” them.
Neural Jumpstart: She can increase the speed of neural signals in the brain, which could increase another mutant’s powers to incredible levels, but the effect was only temporary
Dilate Power: Ability to place “psychic inhibitors” in the minds of mutant adversaries to prevent them from using their powers
Mind Link: Ability to develop a mental link with any person, which remains as a connection to that individual.
Psychic Blast: She can project psychic force bolts which have no physical effects but which can affect a victim’s mind, causing them pain, knocking them unconsciousness or turning the victim “brain-dead”.
Astral Projection: She can project her astral form from her body onto the Astral Plane or the physical plane.
Mental Detection: She can sense the presence of another superhuman mutant within a small but as yet undefined radius of herself by perceiving the distinctive mental radiations emitted by such a being
Telekinesis: Projection of psychokinetic energy enables her to levitate objects, propel or manipulate them however she wishes, lift herself and move through the air to simulate flight, stimulate individual molecules to create heat, generate concussive force as blasts or bursts, and create protective shields. (She can set stuff on fire with her mind without the phoenix, with the Phoenix the flames dont need oxygen).
-Force Field: She can create a telekinetic field to either shield her and her teammates or use it to lift multiple heavy objects at her enemy.
-Tactile Telekinesis: She has the power to utilize a personal force field of telekinetic energy.
-Telekinetic Aura: She has the ability to possess powerful telekinetic extensions of oneself
-Matter Transmutation:She can manipulate and transmute matter on a sub-atomic level (Okay she got this power as the Phoenix, but she can still use it without the Phoenix)
Notes:
She maintained a psychic link to Cyclops for a number of years. She possessed the memories of the Phoenix duplicate of her as well as those of Madelyne Pryor-Summers, her clone, and is thus an expert pilot. Jean using her powers once ripped the Phoenix out of Emma Frost
In terms of psychic powers its Jean> Xavier > Emma
Jean is interesting, you just need people who can write.
Being powerful is not the same as being interesting.
On his favour, Jackman had already been very well-liked in the first 3 movies, where you can make an argument he was the lead guy. Origins was seen more like a bump in the road.
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