Would you pay $40 for a game with 12 characters and 8 stages?

No, if a game has 6 standard buttons, like most Capcom games…

Let’s take MvC2 for example.

LP, LK, HP, HK, A1, A2

YOU CANNOT HAVE A BUTTON THAT IS PROGRAMMED TO ANYTHING BUT THOSE UNLESS YOU SACRIFICE THEM.

So if you wanted a 1 button switch out for LP and LK, you must lose one of your other buttons. Only 6 buttons are allowed to have an assignment.

Also, yes, I played at Chinatown Fair for almost 10 years. The button layout I gave you is correct. Marvel 1 has the standard SF 6 buttons. Marvel 2 does not, nor did it ever have that layout.

Additionally, quite a few people have sticks that only have 6 buttons, since 8 buttons is dick (shoutouts to Tech Talk). If a fighting game required 8 face buttons, people would be hella steamed.

Don’t recall mvc2 having dedicated assist buttons… I got mad when I got the mvc2 dlc… doesn’t feel the same… used to play it in the arcade next to my college

Hahahahahaaha seriously, you took a post intended to be humorous and turned it into a huge post defending your lifes views so your could try to claim some sort of superiority over me, and then claim to be the adult in the situation? Seriously son, you might want to rethink your life if you feel the need to start defending yourself over a post that doesn’t even attack you in the slightest because obviously you really are the one who needs to grow up

My life situation is such that the only way for me to play with other people is online. I bought MvC3 assuming it would have competent netcode. I’m not asking for it to be pitch-perfect to offline, but I am asking for it to seem like a little care and concern went into it. Based on my experiences with SF4 this wasn’t an unreasonable request - SF4 online is great.

I think myself, and most other people who have a problem with this release, would have no problems with it if they would just update the online in regular MvC3 with a decent patch. No, I don’t know how big this would have to be information wise (neither does anyone here), and I’m well aware patches cost them money.

They should spend the money. It’s the right thing to do.

I bought the game in good faith assuming the online would be a fun experience - in fact, it was advertised as a feature of the game.

Spectator mode aside: Booting to the root menu. Ignoring any parameters you put into a custom search. No option for matching connection quality. Minutes to make a connection at all. Minimum of 3 tries to get that attempt that does connect.

This is incompetent and there’s just no defending this aspect of the game.

One of the main arguments heard is “You don’t have to buy it”. Of course we don’t, but if we want the game to work at all online, then we do. And that’s just not cool. They should fix the online in regular MvC3 so you really do have the option of “Sticking with Vanilla” if you don’t want the characters.

This stiff-upper-lip everything’s-fine attitude isn’t reasonable. If someone sells you something, and then part of it doesn’t work like it should, you’d want it fixed. That’s all I’m asking for. Fix the online, then I’ll decide if I want to spend the money on Ultimate. As it is now, if I want to play the game against other people in a competent fashion they’re really saying “I’m gonna need $40 for that.” I already gave you $60 - make the online work. Then we’ll talk about that $40.

yo man… I’m from baltimore… the only place I heard about for fighting is xanadu… is there anywhere else in the maryland area… I plan to start playing tournament soon

I paid more than $40 for Smash 64 and that had 12 characters. So yes, I would pay that much for it.

Then you obviously played a different game. Marvel 2 has 4 attacks and 2 assists. It always has.

Yep, Marvel 2 definitely had 4 attacks, 2 assists. Always has. Have a cab still in very good condition (surprisingly) in my local mall arcade.

Thinking it was an overhauled SF2 cabinet originally though, because the buttons are designated as “Jab, Strong, Fierce” and “Short, Forward, Roundhouse” lol.

Oh my fucking God, I am so sick of this incessant whining from people who never played any fighting games other than Street Fighter.

Three Punch buttons and Three Kick buttons DOES NOT MAKE A GAME GREAT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JoJo's_Bizarre_Adventure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_'98
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_XI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Blade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Shodown_II


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNK_vs._Capcom:_The_Match_of_the_Millennium

Many of the best games I’ve ever freaking played didn’t have six buttons, and that was exactly how they were meant to be played. It’s not like MvC3 was built with a 3P,3K set up and then changed at the last minute to be a LMHS set up.

The way MvC3 is, is how it was built from the ground up. Don’t like it? Well, tough fucking shit. Get used to it or play one of the HUNDREDS of other competitive games out there.

A buddy of mines says the same thing… that there was a l,m,h set up for punch and kick…

Easy answer: then the both of you are idiots.

http://forums.sirlin.net/archive/index.php/t-1211.html

I actually thought KOF02’s four button setup was harder to combo on than the six-button one, but playing on pad is hard in general. Probably the scrub in me talking though.

…you know we got nothing to talk about when we’re arguing over button configurations.

It’s not the 40 bucks that bother me, I’ll gladly hand over those, but the fact they’re releasing it so soon and apparently listening too much to the QQ. We’ll see how this new model fares, but I liked the “just deal with it” era better.

okay clown… I play tekken, sf,mk,soul caliber, blaze blue, … etc… that’s all I play is fighting games before you open your mouth,… u need to check with who your running it about… u probubly are just a braced toothed… pimpled faced snot-nose… with superiority issues… I played fighting games since the beginning… don’t get it twisted… they made mvc3 too dam easy to combo…anybody can bang out a 20+ combo and not even know what the hell they are doing… u have to practice and learn mvc2… u shoulda asked why first MORON

Go get a Dreamcast (or PS2 or Xbox, if you want a lesser version of the game), get a copy of the game, and find out for yourself.

He looked it up

u was right… I guess I got them mixed up

When you have to resort to ad hominem attacks, you have already lost the argument.

If MvC3 is easy to combo, then it shouldn’t even be an issue. If it’s easy for your opponent, it’s easy for you as well.

It’s then not about the combos, it’s about making an opening. It’s about analyzing your opponents weakness and capitalizing on it. You know, STRATEGY.

MvC2 has just as many simple as hell combos as MvC3 does, and MvC3 has just as many complex combos as MvC2 does. You could get a whole lot of mileage out of MvC2’s combo system by chaining it up with LP,LK,LP,LK,HP,HK just as you do with MvC3’s LMHS combos. Were there more complex combos than that in MvC2? Most certainly, but there were most certainly more complex combos in MvC3 as well.

All it all, it just sounds like you don’t know what the hell you are talking about. Your whole attitude of ‘less than six buttons = not a good game’ was a pretty good sign to me that you played Street Fighter and nothing but. If you play Mortal Kombat, BlazBlue, Tekken, etc, why do you not hold them up to the same standard that you hold MvC3 to?

Would you pay $60 for 12 characters as separate DLC?

The price is warranted imo.

This is a disingenuous argument. I wouldn’t have bought any of the stages, and probably 3 max characters.

DLC offers choice. Disc does not.