World Heroes Perfect: Join #srksnk on efnet! Frame Data for almost half the cast!

It’s called Anthology in the US and Gorgeous in Japan. Never liked the name Gorgeous really- it sounds stupid unless it’s Slayers.

I am starting to like this, very much. Tomorrow ill be on the chan, looking for some games!

Sorry, guys, been busy with a project that needs to get finished within this month. After I complete that, I’ll be around for frame data & playing people again.

-Josh

been playing this with a couple of friends over here in SoCal… man Ryofu is a fuckin killer, HP guard crush is stoopid good.

is it just me or does Hanzo/Fuuma’s jumping mk damn near beat most limbs air to air? haven’t really played against most of the cast to know for sure so far the only characters my friends use are hanzo, mudman, capt kidd, rasputin, Carn, muscle power and Ryofu

Ryofu isnt fast enough to land any damage off his guard crush, so its actually nearly useless.

Hazou/Fuuma j.mk is very very prioritized, and beats a LOT of stuff, thats for sure.

Keits, is there anyway to use Hanzo’s hurricane kick-like attack without being punished at the end?

really? cos ive been doing guard crush, dash in HP rinse and repeat and if someone has a DP dash in do nothing to bait, guard crush rinse repeat… shit has been working… the range on his HP is pretty far and in the corner this becomes game breaking for my friends… id like to add my friends aren’t scrubs either, we’ve all been playing games for quite some time and have been schooled in the ways of ST but then again we haven’t been playing this game for too long so iono you might be right but so far its been working real well

Guard Crush can be backdashed out of, or wiggled out of. Ryofu has nothing fast enough to stop someone from doing either on reaction. Show them how to do this, and try that strat again.

Very very few characters can get anything guaranteed after a guard crush. Ryofu’s guard crush follow ups are amongst the worst. We thought he was the best character in the game for a while too, but we dont even really put him in topp 5 anymore (or, if we do, its #5)

good shit sir

ok so this kills his shit mid screen but in the corner this is still pretty vicious, no? how fast does the wiggle have to be? are we talking “mash that shit son!” ST status? and on backdash is there frames of invincibility cos if not on either in the corner that makes for some dirty mind games for Ryofu.

im gonna tell the guys this info tho should make the game alittle more interesting now… funny thing is one of my friends used to play this waaaaay back when it was new in the arcades and he told me that the guard crushes were dirty but you could get out of them he just didn’t remember how :sad:

FYCN, read the system’s and feature’s guide linked to in the original post. It answers most of your questions. Vs some characters, a wiggle is near impossible and a backdash must be done very quickly. Vs Ryofu, you have ample time for either. Backdashing is totally 100% invincible from start to finish, and if you are your buddies are not using it yet, you are not playing high level WHP yet. Backdash can be used on wakeup, too.

If you find anything else that you think is broke, come on back and well tell you how to escape/deal with it. Ryofu is still strong, and braindead easy to play, but he is no where near unbeatable.

I’m a bit confused on something. Gamefaqs says that there’s an “alpha counter” of sorts in this game, done like in Fatal Fury Special(forward and A when blocking) but I can’t get it go work. Is this actually in the game, or am I just wasting time?

for sure man i didn’t think he was unbeatable, he just seemed to have some shit that once he got you in it, as Alex likes to say, “you can’t escape”

but again thanks for the info this should make the game more interesting… im gonna test the limits of the guard crush game in the corner tho… cause even you guys admit that backdashing in the corner isn’t very effective… truth be told tho im more of a hanzo player myself since that j.mk is such a good air to air and easy ass cross up… for some reason tho the teleport command is fuckin me up its a simple d,u motion but maybe my timing isn’t right or something

Wasting time. The Gamefaqs thing is wrong. The systems guide linked in the first post is the most accurate list of universal abilities in this game IN THE WORLD!!!

And no, FYNC, I didnt say that about backdashing. It IS JUST AS EFFECTIVE in the corner. Sometimes, you even get a throw out of it. If your opponent predicts a backdash, they can try to catch you in recovery, but if you predict this action, you can just wiggle out of the guard crush and block. (f, b, f, b is usually enough to wiggle out for me)

Teach your friends to option select throws (another guide in the first post). Hanzo/Fuuma j.mk is EXTREMELY unsafe on anything but a deep crossup or walljump (fuuma only). You get thrown for free nearly every time. Hanzou’s j.hk actually crosses up and is much better for him in most jump-in cases. For Hanzou’s teleport, its actually (Down, Nuetral, Up) + Button. You cannot hit diagonals and you must cross through nuetral on the stick to get it to work (very much like Dragon’s Dragon Kick and Mudman’s Monster Flayer)

yeah the free throw thing we know about as a matter of fact it pissed most of us off at first… i remember the first time i did that shit to one of my friends he was using hanzo and did the j.mk on my way early and tried to attack me once he landed ate a throw… shit i’ve thrown them out of some block strings and got the “WTF?” reaction several times, we started to switch it up of course trying to bait the throw since everyone tried to abuse that shit… this shit doesn’t work for Ryofu ive noticed against hanzo/fuuma or maybe it does and i just suck but everytime my friend would get on top of me with either of them and start the j.mk nonsense i would try to throw them and they would either just jump again or do cr.hk and hit me…

thanks for the teleport tip, makes sense cause some times id get the teleport if i did the command slow, but often in the heat of things when im in rush your shit down mode it would fail.

as for the backdashing thing you misunderstand what i meant, in the corner if my opponent backdashes i still have the option to put homeboy in another guardcrush situation or throw or piss him off enough where he may attempt a jump giving me the hit i desire. yes i can see that the sword is double edged here and my opponent if given the proper intellect can bait me as well. but what i was getting at is i still have a option to stay on top of my opponent in the corner as opposed to mid screen where the back dash frees up some space for my opponent and makes things harder for me to do mah rinse, repeat method (its so simple, god its so simple)

Yes, thats very true. And its not terribly hard to get peope into the corner as Ryofu, either. Lets play online sometime :slight_smile:

dood id love to but the thing is ive got no converter for my pc to use either a stick or my pad… and i wont waste our time playing you on keyboard

im a pad player btw (i believe i met you at EVO world last year during the samsho tourney we discussed Sogetsu for a while and you told me about linking his cr.b into his water pillar)

Yup, I remember you. I have a picture of us together I think (you were with WickedElement, yes?)

Buy a gamepad or something for PC !!!

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=98646&id=504922179 Is that right?

i dont have a facebook account but yes that was me with wicked if im wearing a hat and glasses…

as for buying a gamepad, i’ve noticed them shits are straight up garbage my friend has a converter and i need to get one of those cos the IMHO the PSX pad is the best. im gonna get back into sticks when SFHD drops cos ST is best played on stick.

i also need to dl the proper clients and what not, advice?

http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v134/1/55/504922179/n504922179_98646_1622.jpg

does that work?

You need neo final burn alpha, neogeo.zip bios, and the roms. thats all you should need. go buy the Hori Fighting Stick EX2 for 360. It works on PC with minimal setup (its usb) and is only 60 bucks.

yup thats me.

good shit sir, i will do this tommorow but i have to work for the rest of the week… how does next week sound?