Right, so if you tell a friend a secret and a week later everyone knows that secret, are you telling that person anything ever again? Fuck no. Don’t be a fucking idiot.
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That’s because catchafire is a fucking idiot.
oh you mean the fake war that nobody wanted, where the US fucking TORTURED PEOPLE AND KILLED INNOCENTS??? Yeah, wikileaks is what hindered any diplomatic efforts.
wiki has gone through lots of trouble to do whatever they can to ensure that people aren’t put into PHYSICAL jeopardy over these leaks. And people reporting them (ie- New York Times) has even asked the state department for help redacting shit.
wow, i feel stupider for having read those two comments. You seriously think our intelligence community is heavily involved in sending info through embassy’s lmfao???
And the army guy had a fucking conseince. He came across video of innocents being killed, told his CO, got told to shut the fuck up and ‘find more insergents’. I’m proud of him for standing up for what’s right. Instead you accuse him of being gay and ignore the issue at hand. I’d tell you to quit while you’re ahead, but you were never ahead.
I no longer think you’re stupid, I now KNOW you’re a complete waste of humanity. You mother should have taken you in the face instead of the snatch.
Yeah, I’d somewhat worry about several nuclear countries wanting to eliminate one of them. A muslim war is TRIVIAL? Seriously, you have gotta live in some white trash fucking place, to have such a naive view of the world you uneducated fuck. How about the fact that the Chinese government is actively hacking major internet sites? Or Iran supplying weapons to terrorist groups? Oh yeah, I forgot, if it doesn’t happen in your backyard, you’re too fucking clueless to figure out how to pull your head out of your ass and think without Fox news.
I think you meant to say “thanks wikileaks for giving me a chance to prove to SRK how fucking dumb I am”
Simply put, as Americans you elect your government to do whats right for your country, not fucking whine about other countries leaders then get pissy when they find out, or fucking pull ILLEGAL shit behind closed doors. If we as citizens commit crimes, and get caught, retribution will be swift and deadly. The same should be expected of your government. This isn’t the fucking 60’s.
from now on, whenever people ask who Dr B is, I’m just gonna point to Ronin
catchafire shows his stupidity on every topic he posts in. from naruto to government leaks. just ignore the idiot already.
No, I am the only sane one here… Please note, that in ALL of my arguments, I refrain from calling ANY of you idiots or curse in ANY of my comments. I should know better that the majority of SRK’s audience cannot make valid arguments without cursing and putting others down.
Here’s some information on Bradley Manning , the guy who has been feeding wikileaks its information. That guy will probably get tried for reason or whatever and spend many nights in jail.
Did you read that at all, it seems that all of his motivations for doing this were positive, and he simply wanted to encourage debates and reform, good shit.
Now, he’s about to get thrown in jail for what may possibly be the rest of life for telling us what the government would never tell us. His 1st amendment right of freedom of speech is getting shitted all over.
You completely misunderstood what I said.
- This leak makes a muslim war more likely as it exposed a lot of the country’s around there’s true feelings on Iran. Although this was mostly known.
- My original point, before you took it out of context, was that none of the information leaked was very damning to the US as it was mostly other countries getting called out. Only thing is the gossipy shit some of our diplomats wrote about some foreign leaders, but people will be over that soon.
All the leak did was cause pointless tension. None of the content leaked was very damaging to the US, but the fact it was released will hurt foreign relations because diplomats will be unwilling to talk to us.
^ If the info was harmless and it was mostly gossip/opinions, why is a 22 year old man with his whole life ahead of him about to get locked up for FIFTY-TWO years for exercising his first amendment right? None of this information is false, because they are official documents.
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I don’t know, I wasn’t really talking about that. My point only is that the info that was leaked was mostly known and probably hurt more than it helped. As for my opinion on his sentence, I’ll come back to you on it.
Again, I ask ALL of you here, what information released TODAY has been of benefit to our country??? Is it wrong for a country to want to keep some information secret? Has America fallen so far that most of you believe that we are being held blind folded to the truths of what is really happening out there?
Our country is already one of the most transparent and fair democracies in the world. Nothing, by my estimate, released today has been of helpful to us. As Hilary Clinton has expressed today, “There is nothing laudable about endangering innocent people, and there is nothing brave about sabotaging peaceful relations between nations on which our common security depends”. Her full article can be read here
Let us remember this. Had Bradley Manning been born in a different country and proceeded to perform the same atrocious actions of revealing documents of a sensitive nature, he would be hanging from a tree a looong loooong time ago. Still, as a US citizen, he will be granted a fair trial and given the opportunity to defend his actions. There are not many countries out there who would do the same.
Loose lips sink ships…
Reason >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tact. Your “arguments,” from what I’ve read so far, are FAR from reasonable. A tactless rebuttal that still legitimately counters an argument is still a legit rebuttal. Ad Hominem only occurs when insults comprise the entirety of something.
Because that’s exactly what this is like, Captain Relevant Analogy; the inane prattle between you and your friends.
Hey, good work on your rebuttal. Next time weave the rest of the Top 20 Logical Fallacies into it. Try to break a record; you’re more than qualified.
Dr. B : You :: Grade school children : You
i’ma let you finish, but first im going to translate this
i’m the only one who agrees with my opinion. useless shit that is completely unrelated to why i was called a fucking idiot. i should know that someone isn’t wrong just because they called me a mean word.
useless shit.
ok, done.
I was just trying to dumb it down so you could understand.
You also accused me of logical fallacies yet you’ve offered nothing to this discussion. Just two posts of jibberish. Speaking of inane prattle…
You all can call me an idiot all you want, but I will stand firm to my beliefs that wikileaks has endangered our role as ambassadors to the world and has hampered our reputation as well. The revelations have caused “pointless tension.”
^Um… okay, I give a fuck about Hilary Clinton’s opinion? Proof that these documents have endangered the American people or GTFOH, your argument against Bradley Manning is invalid and his acts were not atrocious.
Secondly, three criminal lawyers hired by wikileaks were supposed to defend him in court but they are being denied access to him and he is instead supposed to be defended by a military attorney by force. Right to a fair trial, I agree.
EDIT: Actually bothered to read the article, to give your POV a fair chance, but from that article there was no indication of any harm done. The stuff revealed may have rubbed people the wrong way, but they are not thinking “let’s nuke America”, they were just irritated towards the opinions expressed towards them.
What is the point of your post? My point, if it is lost to you, is that when I make an argument, I do so in such a manner as to not belittle people by calling them an idiot or infusing my response with curse words. Simple.
Maybe you should care about Hillary Clinton’s viewpoints since she is the US Secretary of State. You know, the individual whose job it is to work with foreign countries on OUR nation’s behalf. And as such, her role has been compromised due to today’s events. Check out information on the duties of Hillary Clinton here to better understand her role in our Government.
He’s right, guys. Hillary can never get the US to be friends with foreign nations again because we called them booger eaters behind their backs or something. The Coalition of the Willing will be disbanded and the new album and concert tour have been canceled.
Thanks a lot, stupid, stupid, document leaks.
Let’s play pick apart the news article you are using to defend your argument.
tl;dr- I’m trying to save face by giving a bullshit speech.
tl;dr Hopefully, this will help Obama get elected into office so I can keep my damn job. Go democrats.
tl;dr I know I(George Dubya Bush) don’t matter no mo, but hopefully this will help this idiot(Sarah) get elected into office. That line about Al-Qaida should really get them on my side, because journalism and freedom of press=terrorism. How bout dem cowboys?
We the world leaders are pissed about what you were saying behind our backs, but it wasn’t that big of a deal. We realized that it is simply gossip. This information is well-known, no harm done, no skin off of our backs.
So we are in danger because? Again, prove that some sort of substantial harm was done for this man to deserve 52 years in prison or your argument is invalid.