If Nintendo ever wants to get my respect back…
They need to seriously stop looking for gimmicks to stick onto their systems and just focus on making good games again. I’m seriously sick of all this shit.
Just release a fucking console, with a fucking gamepad, none of this fitness shit, I don’t want to be associated with that, and some good fucking games.
I find this to be far from the truth, and is more represenative of Nintendo’s Marketing Strategy than anything else. Aside from Zelda and Mario, Nintendo prefers a very short show time between when games hit the shelfs and when we get our first look at them. Did ANYONE see Donkey Kong Country Returns coming? No, not a single person, but Nintendo still managed to build hype for the game in less than half a year. We know for a fact that Zelda, Pikman, Kirby, a new IP, and a new Pokemon are in the works. We don’t know what else is in store. There is also The Last Story and Xenoblade, which both have a very strong chance of coming State Side, ESPECIALLY The Last Story.
As for the Wii being weak in its early years, I disagree, throughout its history I have found many, many games to keep me entertained, games that self proclaimed “hard-core” gamers tossed aside, these include games like A Boy And His Blob, Endless Ocean, and Wario Land: SHAKE IT!. The fact that people complain that the Wii doesn’t get a certain type of game is incredibly silly to me, because it is expecting the Wii to do something it does not do. I have no problem with people not enjoying Endless Ocean, I can understand why, but to disregard what others might find it is simply absurd.
I take not just issue with that article, but this continued ranting by the press outside of The Escapist about how the Wii “has failed” in some way they equate I can’t even fathom.
I call Dead Space 2 trash shit because it is just that: trash shit. From the marketing to the development, it is complete rubbish. Using gore and violence to sell a meh sequel to a meh game, and reguardless, the press goble this shit up. There are plenty of games on my 360 that
Motion controls can no longer be equated to a gimmick. They have been mirrored by Nintendo’s competitors, has proven financially successfully on 3 separate gaming systems, and has been received positively by developers. Calling motion controls a gimick now is like calling an Analog stick a gimmick at the end of the PS1 and N64 era.
:wtf:
People have different ideas of what is “valid.” And I mentioned an example of something I’ve personally heard, so I don’t get what you mean by “no evidence.”
Yeah, let’s just agree to disagree. I’m not feeling this conversation.
Anyway, as for the Wii, this is nothing new. In the history of games every console suffers from terrible software. Every single one of them. Likewise, most of the major ones have great games as well. Whether you’re talking about video games or something else, quality is almost always outnumbered by mediocre works.
Lots of Wii bashing but pretty much everyone praises consoles like the NES. Try watching the AVGN, that’ll give you an idea of how many terrible games some of the older consoles, like NES, have. This isn’t just some recent trend.
When it boils down to it, people just have fond memories of the games they like and praise the console for it, disregarding the fact that there are multitudes of games on it that are ass. The Wii is no different, the games that are ass easily outnumber the excellent ones, but then the only thing changing here is society’s perception of it.
In my opinion, just give various games that interest you a try, find the ones you like, and don’t bother with the rest. Time spent worrying about all the games you’ll probably never play to begin with is time you could be enjoying something you consider worthwhile. Excuse me while I continue to have a blast with DKCR, so to speak.
P.S. - Nintendo needs to get on that Star Fox already.
No.
This doesn’t stop now.
As Sonichuman stated, quit thinking PS2 didn’t have a fuckton of terribad shovelware, because it did. Does that make the PS2 a bad console? Hell no, it was the best one of the gen. Wii is very similar in that respect to the PS2 whether you like it or not. Just because YOU didn’t like any of the stuff in Wii’s library (and I honestly have no idea why if you like good games) doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
As for motion control, it’s downright silly to call it a “gimmick” at this point since every console this gen has it. It’s like calling an touch screens on phones a gimmick, and they’re a standard of the industry. For fuck’s sake. :wtf:
That’s not the fucking point. The PS2 might have had a load of shit but it also had the largest library of amazing games, covering the broadest possible spectrum of interests of any console ever.
Stop comparing the Wii’s, like, 6 or 7 genuinely good games to the PS2’s veritable goldmine of classics. You’re not the first person to make this fucking retarded comparison. Just because the Wii has the shit games in common with the PS2 doesn’t mean you can go ahead and extrapolate that this also must mean it has tons of good games, because it doesn’t.
Motion controls ARE a gimmick. Touch screen interfaces actually add to the usability and functionality of whatever it is you’re using. Scrolling, clicking, typing, zooming and whatever else on the same interface.
Waggling controls are worth shit. They don’t do anything a button press couldn’t have. The one single area of the Wii remote you could argue as a legitimate advancement is the pointer function, and most games don’t even use it. Hell, the Kinect has retardedly decided to forgo this one positive contribution of this new motion control craze.
It’s nigh useless. It adds nothing, and in many cases actually inhibits performance. It’s popular, though. That’s pretty much the definition of gimmick.
Who decides what a genuinely good game for others is? Apprentally you do, in your little world.
Lol I’m not talking to someone who basis his arguments on his own subjective opinions to be taken as fact.
And I’m not talking to someone who “apprentally” misspells fucking bases.
For me, personally the Wii is alive and well. Every time I got to look for games for it, I came across titles from now to a few years ago that interest me.
I actually saw Zack and Wiki in TWO different GameStop stores for $19.99! I believe the game is telling me to buy it. Too bad I have no cash due to no job after the move! Gah!
Also, Castle Shikigami III is $9.99 at GameStop. Dang, I hate window shopping.
Yeah…you don’t seem to be listening to any opinion other than your own. I pretty much get along with folks on SRK but you’re not even worth the effort anymore. I’ll be blocking you, feel free to do the same and save the thread your tirades.
I actually had more responses that I was working on but my mouse died and I couldn’t fuckin move it so I had to restart and ended up losing everything. Fucking Awesome. I’ll try to retype my thoughts later cause I’m not going to be able to do it now before I have to go to bed and deal with the Mahvel crowd in the morning.
Nintendo Download 2/15/11
Welcome to Nintendo of America’s Media Site
WiiWare: Pucca’s Kisses Game, chick chick boom (demo), Chronos Twins DX (demo) VC:none
Nice to see they put up a demo of Chronos Twins. I’ll probably try that out.
No Main Pokemon Game on Wii
No Main Pokemon Game For Wii - Wii News at IGN
and this is from the main guy over at Game Freak. I can understand Pokemon’s portability importance but in all seriousness the thought of at least a Pokemon MMO has to have at least been brought up to this guy. I’d say maybe they can do something with the 3DS but eh…it’s probably just going to remain as one of those ideas filed under ‘Why hasn’t Nintendo done this?’
Why do people feel the need to announce the fact they’re blocking someone, like they’re supposed to give a shit or something.
Yeah Super Mario All-Stars will get one last run and it’s coming March 13th. I want it but I’m going to pass against my better judgement cause I’m actually going to need that money other stuff.
Now to try to type my responses again…
Nintendo is a hard to predict company where things that would generally seem to be a no brainer they may just not do just for the fact of not doing it. I’d say they’ve thrown plenty of curveballs to the point that expecting them to do something that everyone else wants them to do can lead to slight disappointment. I’m HOPING they release Last Story over here but I’m not going to hold my breath on it and Xenoblade has a lower chance of coming over despite them having announced it over here. Remember Disaster: Day of Crisis? That game was supposed to have been over here years ago but it got released everywhere else cept for North America for whatever reason.
No nobody saw DKCR coming and those surprises can be nice when it’s a Triple A title like that but Excitebots suffered hard from them doing that. It had to have been literally 3 weeks before that game was released that they finally told us it was coming and it was like ‘whuh!?’
Don’t let The Escapist get to you…they have a guy on the site that if you took seriously as a reviewer you damn well probably wouldn’t be playing anything.
Dead Space 2 is playing to its strengths. I haven’t played Dead Space myself besides extraction but I can tell it’s a good game and is actually doing Survival Horror better than Resident Evil is currently. Of course that’s opinion though. I won’t go into it anymore because I’m sure it won’t get anywhere.
To be completely honest on this issue…Nintendo trying to come up with something new is actually one of their strong points and has actually helped shape plenty of standards in the industry currently. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that though…right? Something that people may see as a gimmick can easily end up being a standard within the next few years and Nintendo has been behind a lot of those staples that many of us take for granted now. Instead of getting caught up in the arms race of putting out higher powered console every time they’re at least trying to breath new life into the market especially in a time period where making games is only going to get more and more expensive with each console iteration. At this point in the gaming industry more than ever it’s not going to be how many polygons make up a character but how the artists themselves utilize what is there. If that’s going to be the case then why not try to innovate in other areas to try to breath more life into the game industry? That’s just the way how I’m seeing it and people are going to either love them or hate them for it because it seems everytime Nintendo tries to ‘disrupt’ shit it ends up causing a ripple effect on the industry and even often effects the other consoles in the same generation for people who don’t even own Nintendo’s own system.
The only issue with this now is that becaues they’ve been trying so hard to innovate now it’s going to be a expected of them now to try to do something different something that isn’t even really expected out of the other 2 companies. Its going to be interesting to see where Nintendo goes and what they plan to do…will they try to do something new again or will they go for the easy route and just pump out a more powerful Wii with more buttons?
Motion controls being nigh useless I can’t agree with and again boils down what the developer plans to do with it and how. Most developers of the Wii’s better games have a better understanding now when to use them and not just force them in for the sake of having them…NBA Jam on the wii is a pretty good example of this. Using the motion controls in that game was actually a hell of a lot of fun for me personally when it came to shooting and swatting the ball. And to pull the game up yet again Red Steel 2 for me completely blew out any chance of me thinking that motion controls were just a gimmick. Again…it’s all going to depend on the developer.
The only genre that I can see motion controls being completely useless in is fighting games…that’s based upon what I’ve seen so far.
Also to be clear when I’m talking about ‘motion controls’ I’m talking about in the fashion that Nintendo and Sony has done and not Microsoft. If it’s one thing I can certainly agree with its how I’m not feeling how Microsoft has went with it as I see the applications for it are going to be limited and to try to put it in something that involves moving a character in 3D space doesn’t look natural.
As for the ‘fitness shit’, I’m not entirely certain why you’re getting upset at something that could actually better somebody’s health. If you’re not looking to do any exercises on your system then you’re clearly not the target for the game…just ignore it. If a large mass of people can only play ‘that 2k junk on the 3’ and ignore the existence of God of War, Gears of War, and Super Mario Galaxy then I’m certain you can not pay any attention to a genre that isn’t for you.
Because certain clowns (read: you) deserve it.
Blocked.
I want my Xenoblade/The Last Story Nintendo, make it happen already. At least announce something so we know it’s coming.
Since I’m not going to Final Round I’ll finally be able to pick up Epic Mickey, Sonic Colors and Donkey Kong Country Returns.
Though with Dragon Age II and Poke’mon B/W coming out I doubt I’ll be playing them much.
Go you!
My guess on Nintendo’s next gen console surprise is 3D hand manipulation. The DS touch panel was a precursor to the Wii’s motion controls, so the 3DS 3D graphics is the precursor to Nintendo’s 3D console manipulation.
Wild guess.
I still have yet to pick up my reserve of DKCR and Vanquish. I want to play Epic Mickey too but I gotta wait on that. Marvel is taking up most of my time currently with spots of Bayonetta thrown in here and there.
On that note though FUCK Sentinal. I refuse to play that dumb robot.
Nintendo Download 2/21/11
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Wii Ware: Jewel Keepers: Easter Island, Cozy Fire, Rage of the Gladiator (demo), Learning with the PooYoos: Episode 1 (demo)
VC: Faxanadu
GS is also selling new Wii’s 20 bucks off this week. Just throwing that info out there for those interested.
Pop-Fiction on GT did an interesting video on Ocarina of Time’s Fire Temple music being changed in the latest and subsequent releases of the game
I didn’t even fuckin know they changed it to be honest since I had the cart with the chanting.
watches tumbleweed blow by and taps his foot man it’s been super slow on the Wii side. Iwata better have something good…
The end of 2010 was really strong for Wii but they haven’t done shit since.
Conduit 2 - Multiplayer Trailer
Conduit 2 - Multiplayer Trailer Video - Wii - IGN
January NPD 2011
NPD Sales Results For January 2011 [Up4: Analyst Data (Lots Of Games)] - NeoGAF
Something of note for last month was that none of Wii’s exclusive stuff outside of Just Dance 2 actually ranked…this incudes DKCR and Epic Mickey. It’s almost like they just dropped off the face of the earth lol. Black Ops, Dead Space 2, Little Big Planet 2, Dance Central, and even DC Universe ranked for the month. Assassin Creed: Brotherhood also did pretty well.
In terms of hardware it was 360, Wii, and PS3. 360 was the only one with a positive with both Wii and PS3 taking negative hit with the Wii getting hit the hardest at -32%
Also noticed that Microsoft and Sony made comments on NPD and Nintendo just went ‘…’.
Edit: think I’m gonna go play some Prime Trilogy before I head to bed.