Even if you take A Groove out people would bitch about how cheap K CBS is or any other random top tier team.
The biggest problem is also one of its strength, it just takes longer then most other FG to play. KOF players generally dont like it because its not all about random rushdown, SF player dont tend to like it because it just takes to long with the 3 on 3 combat.
It isnt like its done that bad though, there isnt exactly a laundry list of FG that have lasted as long as CvS2 has so far.
Most KOFs pre-XI arenāt either. Maybe the players themselves are all about rushdown but the games arenāt. Itās true that you can definitely rush down a lot more in KOF than in CvS2 thoughā¦
For the most part yeah that are, that is the appeal to KOF in the first place. KOF places a heavy emphasis on the offensive side of the fg, that is why people like it. It if was more defensive it would generally not be KOF. Even more of the KOF Grapple characters like Clark have alot of rushdown options that people use. The game is meant to be offensive and is generally played that way.
Well, teach people hehe. Iād love to get in on cvs2. I find the matches a lot more interesting to watch than 3s, just takes more time to learn than 3s does.
simple. scrubs give up and dont bother learning because its KINDA hard to get into. kinda but not hard at all if you stop bitching about shit and actually gave it a try and mess with stuff in training mode. I just think effort scares people.
nobody is good at cvs2 overnightā¦it takes hard work and its the survival of the fittestā¦only for the big dogs. I really like cvs2 because its obviously the most balanced game out now ! :wgrin:
CvS2 has already fallen off the radar in Japan, IMHO. Sure, its still at tourneys and what not, but aside from playing it just to play a competitive fighter, interest has tanked. I could walk into any random arcade, and the CvS2 machine would be collecting dust. At a-cho, they reduced their CvS2 machines (non tourney times) from 3 to 1, and the 1 machine gets pretty lonely. More people play A3. I see more people screwing around with the MvC2 machine than with CvS2 (along with the Japanese inability to commit to the top-tier, and use teams like Magneto, Guile, and Marrow).
Iām someone who has given up CvS2. I just didnāt like it. I canāt blame one particular aspect in particular, I think its just a combination of things that made the game not fun for me. About halfway through my CvS2 ācareerā I switched to A-Groove to try and keep my interest up, but even that eventually didnāt work. Especially playing at a-cho - I got to a point where I realized that if I wanted to be more than a training dummy for those guys, I was going to have to put in more work at the game - and I just didnāt like the game enough to want to do that.
Donāt call me lazy. I was a decent American A3 player, went to Japan and a-cho, got intercoursed without consent. I took the time to re-learn the things I thought I knew, and now I can hang at a-cho. The difference from CvS2 is that I like A3, so putting in the work didnāt bother me.
its such a great game but the patience it takes to learn the game is annoyingly long, i understand when people can learn 2 games by the time they learn CvS2. I love the game and hate to see it gone from tournaments but Iām not gunna keep hoping its going to stay around, so learning other fighters is has become fulltime for me.
I donāt have a lot to contribute to this thread, but I find it depressing that people donāt think CvS2 has ālasting power.ā Itās probably the most entertaining fighting game me and my circle of friends have played. Granted, we donāt play competitively, nor do we ever really play sober, but CvS2 has just been plain fun for us in the past 6-7 years. I mean, weāve all played MvC2, every Street Fighter you can imagine, some Guilty Gears, some KoFs, and tons of 3D fighters as well ā none match CvS2ās fun factor, except maybe Street Fighter 3, or Samurai Shodown 2ā¦
I love the game. I get alot more out of one game of CvS2 then Iāve ever really gotten out of 3S, and thereās just soooooooooooooooooo many more characters I can fuck with in CvS2. I mean seriously, how the FUCK does someone like Iyo own up with Dhalsim, Maki, Rolento? Shit is inspiring.
My only gripe with the game is that some people (whoever you are) just refuse to go outside the norm. I mean I canāt complain really, but at NEC my first match was against K-CBS, and my second was against A-Are. I mean even I find K-CBS fun, but dang the game allows you to go beyond that, people should experiment more. I get weird looks for rocking K-Rog, or Athena, or fucking Joe, but SHIT if it isnāt fun as hell to play with them.
Iām jealous of WC CvS2, game still seems plenty alive, and I think Cali-CvS2 was always more hype then EC CvS2 ever was.
we heard you the first time, that sort of input isnāt useful, or appreciated, quit trolling the thread.
I love cvs2, i havent played it in years though. I think it died off because like snake said, it takes a lot of work to get around the numerous hurdles to learning this game.
beginners will get roll thrown, trampled by top tiers pokes. Then you have roll cancel to contend with and the general level of execution required for A groove is high.
To meā¦only so much of a fighting game can be about the technical aspects of the game. Likeā¦ American football is really technical and all but that shit isnāt so popular outside of the US and Iāve talked to plenty of people who think football is boring as hell to watch. Football has its moments but it has a lot of downtime where people are simply prepping for action instead of actually doing anything physical. If youāre actually playing in the game or understand the technicality behind itā¦itās interesting. If youāre not or just donāt like the game of footballā¦itās not going to be fun. Thatās why people do stuff to keep it interesting like down plenty of beers and nachos, place bets on games, play fantasy leagues, play Dat Madden while the game is on even etc. Thereās other factors like the general homeliness the game has here and how everyone can support a team that represents where they live. Basicallyā¦the game has to inspire you or mean something to you for it to click for you. Football is definitely a game thatās 5 times more fun to watch when you see the technicality behind it.
Just like any fighting gameā¦before you see the technicality you see the game and the game has to appeal to you first. Unless you just like everything about the game (my boy Sagatās in it!) CVS2 is one of those games that itās harder to like just by looking at it. You have to actually play and understand why things work in the game to really like it. I meanā¦the SF characters alone donāt instantly make people click with the game. They help and people recognize them but itās easy to tell that the game is just different from old school SF. Itās not like the SNK characters are much better in that respect. KOF fans are super picky and everyone else has no idea what KOF is (CVS2 is probably the reason some gamers were even ever exposed to KOF). U have to have a clear dedication to CVS2 as a game to get the most out of it especially now that everybody knows what works in the game. You canāt scub round with a team of N Kyo, Ryo and Terry cuz theyāre ur SNK boys and expect to do well in tourneys.
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