You learn matchups from playing good/better players. Playing people who don’t even know how to play their own characters really wont teach you dick.
then they can move up to intermediate. then advanced. Christ, why is this so hard to understand?
Glad to see some form of logic still remains on SRK.
Exactly. Why is this so hard to understand for you? You get better by playing better people. Fuck.
Babying players to learn at their own pace won’t teach anything. I feel that the situation is a necessary evil. It truly shows who wants to get better and who wants to just stay at their current level. As I said before the people who terrorize beginner lobbies aren’t even that great to begin with.
Yo do get better by playing better people. but playing is different from getting taken for a ride. out of curiosity, why are you getting so upset over this? you should have no problem, you know, not selecting a lobby called beginners, unite! if you are looking to play better players and get better yourself.
or are you trying to justify nubstomping as being for their own good, while using it just to make yourself feel better? at least that other guy was honest about it.
You don’t seem to understand that you getting destroyed is a extremely nice learning tool.
nope, it just makes people trade the game in and play something else. i’ve already had people trade in copies of ultimate, and its not even a week old yet. not everybody learns at the same pace, you can’t assume that unless people go headfirst into upper play, they’ll never learn anything. it only further weakens the userbase, especially with other fighting games coming out.
If they’re giving up this fast, chances are they had no intentions on getting better. And they will trade in other fighters just as fast.
it is, when i expect it. if i do ranked matches and get owned (especially by one of my own characters) i take a good amount from it. not everyone pays attention to the details in their opponents, though, and some people are too busy raging to draw a single drop in intel from the fight. meanwhile if those people got the chance to learn their own characters and then actually understand what their opponent is doing, they would learn from their losses as well.
again, this is in regards to a mode specifically for beginners only, and is even alongside a mode for veterans to teach newer players. your points are valid, but they’re misplaced.
thats a pretty off base assumption. a lot of my friends still play SF3 today, obliterate people left and right, yet gave up on vanilla mvc3 not a month after it came out. online play in this game can be downright acidic at times, while most games have much more friendly communities.
I understand that not everyone learns/levels up at the same pace. I have a friend who is better than me by leaps and bounds, despite us starting at the same time. If people trade in their copies because they are getting beaten than they weren’t serious about getting decent in the first place. The problem is that these people feel the need to completely ignore training mode and hop straight online. You take those risks when you put yourself out there. Just because you play in a lower level lobby doesn’t mean that everyone will follow the rules and respect the lower level players. All I’m saying is that if you want to start small go to fucking training mode. Yes it can be boring. Yes it can be tedious. But it exists for a reason. The only way this problem will be solved is if you set a skill cap for lobbies or just eliminate beginner lobbies altogether.
I dont know about yall, but I get my rocks off by going in beginner rooms where some turd has a 30 game win streak and then bringing his world down.
Only played online for about 30 minutes but the Frank West shopping cart scrubs were in full effect. Blow’d it up then he left. This my room now.
Eh I sort of disagree. While playing people who are better than you is definitely a good learning experience and will help you level up, if someone is MUCH better than you… everything is happening so fast that you can’t process the information and learn from it. So if you can compete in tournaments with relative success, beating up beginners doesn’t help your game or theirs. If this is someone’s first fighting game and they can’t even properly combo into a super… they should be able to be able to fight people closer to their level of skill so they can get better. How can we grow as a community if we are inhospitable to newcomers?
Go hide in training mode for a couple hours. Watch your replays. Watch the stupid shit and the good things you did in each round. Try and recreate the situations in training mode and figure out why or why not this and that worked. THEN go online. Rinse, Repeat.
You can’t do something as simple as that, then maybe SRK isn’t for you.
Edit: Disregard the word “round” replace with "match"
I thought this was an SF thread. Woops.
You want people to do short combos? In MARVEL? lol. The entire goal of the game is to not let the other person actually play. :tup:
Training mode, training mode, motherfucking training mode. If you’re so green that you can not super cancel you shouldn’t be online in the first place.
Such a true statement it NEEDED to be quoted.
seriously though, I am new, going hard on training mode and srk, learning everything I can, if i want some light mode practice with a little pressure i do some arcade mode, then I go superrrrrr hard on live. Hope to start going to my local arcade for ‘scrub tuesdays’ this week, wash and repeat. If I am not being blown up I am doing something wrong.
People need to learn to accept the rape, because only then will it become consensual love making
If more people thought like you this world would be a much better place. /respect
It’s hard to understand why people are giving this guy shit for wanting to play beginners in a beginners room. o_O
And we are to assume that people are going to endure hours of boring training with no taste of what it feels like to win? Or how it feels to be in a match where you are just about evenly matched with your opponent? We can’t get people to start playing fighting games if they can’t enjoy it. My friend for example enjoys playing Mortal Kombat with her friends (none of whom play fighting games.) Then after playing with them she realized she enjoys it and wanted to get better and asked me for help. Because she was able to be in relatively fair competition with the rest of her friends, she was able to get an interest in getting better which is the gateway to playing fighting games at a higher level. That’s why I don’t sit around and body all my casual gaming friends. I let them play and enjoy the game.