I have no idea. I was just trying to say that if a jump back fierce beats a headstomp, then Guile’s probably going to do it.
Back to the topic though, I voted for Ken also, but Cammy is very close.
stupid question i can’t test out time. if you get hit out of a dash, you pop the same way you would have if you’d been anti aired. so basically it means you are airborne right? would it be possible to use gief’s anti air super or a tiger kneed maki air grab super against a dashing opponent? or would you just miss it and get raped? 
I highly doubt it. Resets in CVS2 are can’t be followed up with anything from what I know. It’s not like in 3S where you can do all these crazy resets. A3 has it though. Anti-air jab, then ARS with Gief. Same with Gen, Dhalsim, etc.
Oh I just noticed. Yeah, YOU CAN grab some1 out of a dash with an anti-air super like Gief’s ARS.
wow. so basically, if anyone dashes at you and you have gief, free ARS. good to know. can’t wait to play a shoto. :badboy:
wow thats a good point, i bet u can juggle them too.
make someone dash at u while ur akuma and then do like c.fierce (or cr.mk/rh might work better), mk hurrcane. i bet that all combos, someone should test that out.
ok. just got home and tested using ARS vs a dashing ryu and no dice. totally misses. the funny thing is i also tried a 720 and it misses as well. so basically, he’s airborne enough to escape a 720, but not enough for an ARS? what the hell? anyone have any explanations?
on the other hand, dashes like kyo’s and sim’s will get speared easily by ARS. i guess since they hop instead of dash they are actually considered airborne right?
Yeah that’s the thing. Since all dashes have the OTG effect, you can’t grab them, and you can’t combo them in the traditional manner. But any dash that has a positive height can be caught by the ARS. So if they look air borne, you can grab them out of the air.
About the juggling shit, I’m 99% positive you can’t do stuff like Hurricane juggles with Akuma.
Also, remember that reacting to a dash with a super can be VERY hard. It’s more of a “i can do THIS in theory”. Not very useful though.
EDIT: About the OTG on all dashes. I didn’t know that til a week or so ago. You can totally fuck with Zangief and other throw characters. Stand next to them on wakeup, and then dash to avoid their throws. Kinda cheap, but w/e works.
Well, you can do sweep xx hurricane
or hurricane xx special/super
You can also do sweep xx super
Of course, you still have to be anticipating the dash, and you still have to have really good reaction, otherwize they’ll recover and block. Plus, against dashes like Cammy’s, the sweep would have to be timed so that they land on the sweep.
On the other hand, randomly dashing all day doesn’t seem like a very good tatic.
What was this thread originally about, anyway? I think some one got threadjacked…
Does anyone know if ken has a safe jump in versus A sak?
Yeah, crossup forward. She can’t do shit about it. Keep in mind, this is not theory fighter. Yeah, she can do jump back strong, or maybe even close fierce but really…who the FUCK would even risk getting hit by a crossup when Ken has LVL2? It could mean near death. Sometimes, it’s best to keep things safe. So I have to say crossup forward. It even trades with her c. fierce when done from the front. From REALLY upfront, j. rh beats or trades with all her shit. I don’t counter RC’s OBVIOUSLY cause anything RC can in THEORY be used as anti-air. In reality, the short answer is yeah crossup forward and a VERY frontal j. rh. (hit with the tip of the toes).
C-rolento, just play him and poke people in the grill all day, it’s the new hotness.
Thats actually pretty old hotness, well to me at least. It is effective though.
C-rolento was popular back when everyone saw shiro use him 2-3 years ago? Anyway, it’s not one of my options. Not that I don’t think he’s good. But he takes alot to learn and I don’t even have a system at home or an arcade near by.
so how do u play? friends place?
yeah I voted ken becuz he has alot more combo potential and does alot of damage. and that dash thingy just adds more.
Yeah at whoever can host and I goto tournaments sometimes. I haven’t gone into training mode for more than 6 months and my roommate doesn’t play so it’s pointless having systems at my place. I keep up with the times by checking srk and watching match vids.