White guy gets attacked by ANGRY BLACK MOB! ZOMG, WHERE'S THE MEDIA OUTRAGE!?

Except that stop and frisks happen disproportionately more to minorities than whites, [this is an undisputed fac](‘http://NYCLU stats showed that 88% of the Williamsburg stops involved blacks and Latinos.’)t. (In New York alone 88% of all stop and frisks are targeted towards blacks and Latino’s when whites make up 59% of the population.) Oh and a screwdriver is a burglary tool now?(Not to mention the guy was studying to be a aeronautical engineer) And the jewelery wasn’t even confirmed to be stolen. Which pictures of him posing as a thug are you even talking about? The fake one that made its rounds on stormfront? I also didn’t know smoking weed makes you a thug.

And that article is about how Asians are at a disadvantage when doing SAT’s in comparison to whites…sort of disproving your point there. You want to know why that’s the case? Because a private institution like Harvard doesn’t want a 2/3 Asian and 1/3 white campus, they want their diverse line of students to be a certain way and attract the highest amount of people possible. That’s all besides the point though as people seem to be under the false impression that colleges do [or should] pool all their applicants’ files together and take the combination of highest GPA+highest test scores. Top 600 scorers get the 600 freshman seats.

It does not and has never worked like that. There is more to the process than GPA and SAT/ACT scores. If there wasn’t, they wouldn’t ask you for your extra-curricular involvements, letters of recommendation, if you have family members who are alumni, essays, athletic achievements and ambitions, family situation, etc. etc. Why would it be needed if only scores and GPA matters? Right. It’s about more than that.

If you got rejected, chances are GOOD that it’s because you weren’t an all-around talent of the caliber they wanted. Sorry, if all you did in high school was study and weren’t social or engaged in the community, you probably won’t be considered of much value to the University community. If you are white with a good GPA and got rejected, rest assured that there are white people with a LOWER GPA than what you had who got ACCEPTED to said University because they liked them more than you for one reason or another. Maybe they were athletes. Maybe they were children of alums. Maybe they were more social or wrote better essays than you, showing off great potential. But know that a black kid didn’t take your fucking seat because he got a million points for being black; the University didn’t feel you were worthy of a seat in the first place.

this is just too precious

… Honestly, anyone who agreed with the guy saying “Go back to Africa” already lost this debate and made a fool of themselves.

Just because you don’t see public lynchings, “whites only” signs, and other iconic forms of racism of the past does not mean racism against minorities doesn’t exist. If people are legitimately complaining about black scholarship programs and the few instances of “reverse racism” (lol @ that being “racist”) that their misguided notions of “affirmative action” cause, you really need to take a second and learn the reasons for these programs and also learn what true racism and disparity is.

This thread is like a bunch of retards riding on a carousel.

They do constantly, I’ve done it myself.

Here is how it works. Federal and other contracts give bonus points for diversity, also priority to minority owned or majority minority businesses. So by nature, saving managers and company officers game the system. So what that one person isn’t as qualified, if it lands you the contract you can have others pick up his slack. This also creates incentives for company officers to stack their departments with qualified minorities to help the business. Companies also give diversity bonuses to the officers with more diverse departments, since diversity helps land the contracts. I know that point blank when hiring someone hiring an AA over a white guy gives me a better chance at seeing a few thousand dollars more in my bonus at the end of the year.

The people at the top aren’t inherently racist. They are just gaming the system for all it’s worth from every fucking angle. At the end of the day having more black people working for me raises the amount of money I get in my end of year bonus and helps lands us contracts, that’s all there fucking is to it. So unless the white guy is a veteran and thus a protected class, he’s a net drag on my cash funds. Hispanics, well, now they are classified as white people so I could give a rats ass about them. Asians, lol not protected when it comes down to it. Which is why as soon as Hispanics didn’t net us any real contract value we pulled the funding for our Latino club. It’s not producing anything for us.

One contracting firm I worked for abused the fuck out of this. I made far more than the owners but my name was kept off of it. Because we were bidding for DOD funds and we wanted to have all black veterans as the owners and highest positions because it helped us beat out far more qualified and well known firms. They didn’t actually do any of the work, they just helped grease our way to where the money was and then sat on their asses till we went for the next contract.

As soon as you create an advantage for having more of X person smart managers are going to game the ever living fuck out of the system and call it a day. That’s how business works, at the end of the day it’s all about the $$$$$. You’re either playing the game to win it or you go bankrupt.

It is a bandaid to fix a problem that has much deeper roots, but it is better than just not doing anything and having the status quo. I’m not even talking about blacks/latinos I’m talking about non straight white males.(ie women, LGBT, disabled, minorities) It goes beyond racism, it’s discrimination in general and while this bandaid solution obviously isn’t the best way to do it as it doesn’t get to the root of the problem it is far better than doing absolutely nothing about it.

Except it’s not fixing anything. Poor, truly disadvantaged minorities gain nothing from this. Their lack of access to education and proper financial planning information keeps them royally fucked. The racist nature of our drugs laws makes damn sure more of them remain screwed for life. They aren’t helped at all by the hiring situation. All the hiring situation does is make sure that middle class and upper middle class minorities can rig the rules of the game in their favor at the expense of others competing in those economic slots. You don’t get bonus points for having minorities working in lower level positions, or the amount of ex felons you hire. You do get bonus points for having them in director and VP slots.

The same is true with women’s issues. The push for equal pay and equal rights is almost entirely about senior positions in firms. It’s about rich white lady lawyers pushing for mandatory points for having rich white lady lawyers in senior VP and partner positions. They never award points for paying women more, equally, or hiring them below the officer level.

If you truly care about addressing discrimination the legal system and proper public education are the core issues here, along with the financial system. But instead of that, those who have made it in life from those groups have concentrated on rigging the game in their favor at the higher levels while cutting the life line off from those below them. You have people who do not need any help in life rigging the rules to help them and using those who are royally screwed as an excuse to do it, and at the same time fixing the system so those that are screwed get next to 0 benefit from it.

It doesn’t even help discrimination, it makes it worse. I know damn well that I’m in competition to diversify with other company officers. And it’s transparent as hell when people go on minority hiring spree’s right before competing for a new contract and create all sorts of bullshit director slots that amount to nothing. Only to figure out goofy ways to get rid of those slots once said contract is won, then magically create them again two years later. Everybody knows those slots are bullshit and only to win a contract, and it creates the very real image that the people being hired to fill them sure as shit didn’t earn it. But whatever, they’ll take their six figures for two years than vanish due to “job well done, we no longer need that slot. Thank you for your excellent work and time”, only to have me create it again when we go to bid.

This goes on to call into question if minorities in other slots actually earned it or are just there because some VP or officer needed to game the system and decided to pull a fast one. It seriously undermines their professional credibility and causes them a lot of pain. It fuels the long term viewing that anybody past a certain level was an affirmative action hire at one point in their life and thus less valuable and qualified than others. This is tragic because many of the people that are well and truly qualified get dismissed out of hand because “well, Tom only became a director because Jane needed to land a DOD bid and created four more officer slots”.

Before you apply any sort of fix that does not address the root causes of these problems you need to keep one thing in fucking mind. Corporate suits are ruthless mother fuckers that only care about money, winning, and titles. And they will game any system you create to hell and back no matter what the results to get those things. Most of these people are genuine sociopaths and have no issue creating a slew of ruined lives and broken dreams if it gets them a sweet contract and a kick ass end of year bonus. This is why identity politics, and who is and isn’t a minority are the source of real blood feuds. The push to kick Hispanics off the list and quality them as “white/Hispanic” instead of just “Hispanic” was lead by African Americans who wanted to keep the graving flowing to them. And the minorities leading this have made damn sure that it only applies to senior positions and means fuck all to the guys who don’t have an MBA or law degree.

The big evil guy at the top doesn’t care, he’ll just create and destroy positions as needed to make sure he wins no matter what.

I have never seen so many threads about white/black people on the same forum.

Are they also trying to hump a doorknob?

Nah.

The painted wooden bridles, on the painted wooden ponies, however…

Also, shoutouts Patches O’Houlihan.

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/30891199/detail.html

Aaron Parsons has been arrested. Currently has a bail set at $500,000, that was brought down from $1 million.

Before turning himself in, Aaron decided to show up on FOX news (lol) to commentate on the video.

http://www.foxbaltimore.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wbff_vid_13108.shtml

You sealed your fate when you decided to go on Fox news.

No, that article is about how blacks have a huge advantage over everyone… sort of disproving your point there.

No, black kids take the seat because they get 310 points out of a 1600 point exam for being black, assuming both are equally qualified where the variable is the SAT score.

It’s not a band-aid and it isn’t fixing. It’s racism. You calling it a band-aid is like calling slavery a band-aid to give everyone work. America is intentionally hiring less qualified employees so it’s no surprise that quality of service/products is on the decline.

People don’t want to really remove discrimination, so it will continue.

I really find it funny how you call everything racism except for your oh so gracious statement of us needing to go back to Africa. So cute. (and that other statement of calling a screwdriver a burglary tool is the most hilarious thing I’ve heard) It’s also funny that your solution is that nothing should ever have been done and straight white men should have kept those systematic advantages they’ve had all these years. Shit if it were up to you the civil rights movement, the womens rights movement, and the gay rights movement probably never would have happened.

And Acerbic, I definitely agree with you, but the thing is what solution would you propose there be? Doing something, even if it’s only a shoddy stopgap measure is much better than doing nothing at all. It would still be like the 50’s if absolutely nothing was done.

I never said go back to Africa, I said I agree with the person who said you should move to Africa or some other place if you hate the US so much. One means go back to where you came from, the other means leave if you hate this place so much. Not surprised to see these strawman attempts though.

I never said a screwdriver was a burglary tool, I don’t know why I’m even replying to you making up lies. The kid was suspended three times so he’s not a good kid because of that and I stand by what I said, regardless of what race he is. You like to cry racism though.

Again, stop making up lies. I never said nothing should have been done. I said end racism, not try to solve racism by creating racism.

Again, stop trying to make up things I never said. I never said those movements should have never happened. You’re just flame baiting and trolling and it doesn’t make your case look good.

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Fox News :frowning:

Reading that advantage that blacks have over whites in the SAT makes me sad. I damn sure am gonna take advantage of the time i have now.

That’s pretty fucked up man.

I’ve seen retarded kids on stuff like carousels and merry-go-rounds as well as other similar playground, Amusement parks, and fair rides before. They conduct themselves FAR better than we do.

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He said mandick…

never said that.

Hey Thinobuns. It’s off-topic and all, but your present av. Will you tell me which anime or manga or other source that it is from? It has my interest for some reason.

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