*He’s just asking which characters do you think are easier to use, pick up, or don’t require as much work when compared to the rest of the top tiers, that’s all. The first post doesn’t mention anything about the skill level of the players involved.
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I see. Well at this point, if I could, I would change my vote to Chun I suppose. It’s very obvious how a top player that has mastered motions could just step in and learn cr. HP and cr. mk hit confirm xx SAII in what, a matter of one round?
When I was playing, it was casual. However, in both scenarios, I had never played against someone else. And the person I was playing against were casual players as well, but they had played the game before. And I still raped with pretty much Sagat alone. Fastforward a year and with my team (Athena/Rog/Vega), and I’m getting less wins as I play against people I’m learning at the same time with, who are still using Sagat. As well as Blanka.
But I digress, that wasn’t the question at hand.
I can however see how someone’s EXPERIENCE would skew this decision. For example, even if a top player begins learning Chun, if they lose against someone else, sure this doesn’t change the fact Chun is easy to use, but their perception may be skewed, especially if the player hasn’t read up on the game. Of course that is an unlikely scenario at top play, but in general, I mean.
you guys can’t possibly think magneto’s the scrubbiest. the topic is about which character a BEGINNER can pick up easily and score some wins versus other scrubs with.
so lets look at a COMPLETE beginner, who doesn’t know how to even do an air combo and has trouble comboing into supers, much less triangle jump.
so are you going to recommend? a guy who you can win with by simple turtling tactics? or a guy that requires you to actually attack? and if you can’t triangle jump how are you going to defeat someone’s aility to just block low all day? cable doesn’t even need to land a single combo the entire match. magneto does not have that luxury.
turtling is easier to do than rush down. cable can turtle. magneto can’t. cable is easier to win with for a beginner than magneto. its really quite simple.
someone who can already do fancy magneto combos and resets already has technical skill and good execution, they took the time required to figure them out. someone who can win with cable didnt have to spend very much time at all.
To answer an earlier question, Robo-Ky is no longer top tier. He is B rank (which includes Millia and Dizzy), so that defines him as upper-mid tier.
As far as Eddie goes, he does take skill, execution-wise, to win. He’s kind of like 3S Yun… get meter (Eddie Bar), use meter (Shadow Eddie moves), and then run away until you get meter again (fly away/keep away). Eddie is all practice, yes, but there’s a thin-line between him being a scrub character and a character that is hard to use. If Slash wasn’t coming out, #R would evolve into nothing but Eddie, because his potential as a character is still going strong, while other characters have reached a plataue (sp?).
Jam and Slayer should be on that list. Jam is way too fucking scrub friendly with her retardly fast and easy mixup and easy, huge damage. Slayer is harder to use than Jam, but with a little bit of practice and good knowledge of how #R works, your Slayer can be decent in a matter of days. I learned how to use a decent Slayer in less than 3 days. Blah.
This thread in all is rather absurd not to be a dick but alot of people on this thread aren’t exactly top players if anything far from it. And are making calls they have no idea about ;D
This thread isn’t asking for top players… While I understand that they are really the best source of info, if it really asked for that… I bet it would die. lol
Top players don’t post much on SRK as a whole, and I guess for obvious reasons… But why not let us scrubs fight amongst oursleves hey? To bag on people without giving reasons is just elitist, and serves nobody but yourself (and followers)… If you know otherwise for sure, why not lay the smack down? You never know, we might learn something.
we’re not arguing about who is TOPPER tier. It’s which top tier character uses the least skill to rack up wins. Usually this CAN NOT be seen in high level play, as ppl KNOW your shit, and know the cheap ass moves/techniques/strategies of the EASY winning character. THus the toppest tier character usually takes an incredible amount of skill to use effectively since he has a lot more depth.
To see which character uses the least skill to win with, you must look at lower level play. With cable you dun have to know how to do magnetic xx tempest reeally quickly, or how to do rests easily, or even triangle jump effectively, or crossing ppl over. With cable it’s about waiting for someone to throw an unprotected assist and landing AHVB. Or kill the first guy coz they did a laggy move, and then follow up with an easy guard break for the neext incoming character. This equals to littl’ skill for a lot of wins.
In higher level play, cheap characters are relatively harder to use. Of course there are exceptions of CHOI, Billy and Athena. LIttl’e technical skill, littl’ strategy and lots of wins. I think cable falls in the category of littl’ technical, quite a bit of strategy(for defense). Magneto would go into the HIGHLY technical, and quite a bit of strategy (for offense). Cheaper character thus is cable in mvc2
Oh i understand and i didn’t mean it in that way sorry it came off like that. But the point i was just trying to make is alot of people on here saying why so and so characters are easy to use, based off the fact they can use a character and beat their friend,mom,dog but i agree with chun li
ABC in KOF 2002 is completely laughable when you compare them to the top tier of KOF '96 (Iori, Mature, Chin). They had a lot more retarded shit than ABC put together (especially Mature, whose insanely fast and high-priority standing CD could basically overpower any attack, and if blocked, cancel into Metal Massacre. No escaping that shit, mark my words).
Man, don’t even bother arguing with these scrubs. You enter the CTF Weeklys right? Thats more competition than these losers have gotten all their lives. Their play against their mom/dog/sister proves it! They are obviously more qualified to comment on game analysis than people who actually know how to play a game and win at it. Obviously, top players must suck at low level play, and nothing anyone decent does can actually work on different levels, right? And of course, only the scrubs can tell you who is hard and who is easy to use, because, they haven’t actually learned how to use anyone correctly! Yep, makes perfect sense to me! :rolleyes:
What a stupid thread. Heres another scrubby easy character thats not in your gayass poll…where is Blanka? How the hell do you not have him there?
this is not a thread about who top players can win with and how hard it is to win with those characters. because cable loses in high level play that means he’s harder to learn? uh no. that’s not what this thread is about. it never was. or at least, from the title, that’s not what i got. its about what character can a person new to the game pick up, and following a BRAIN DEAD game plan, can win with. You can win games with cable by just jumping back and calling assists. you could never do that with magneto.
if youre going to argue that rushing down is easier than turtling uh… since when could you get away with being BRAIN DEAD in rush down? you can’t. you’d lose.
