Sounds like you are unfamiliar with Ogre’s gimmicks. As for Sagat, he’s the same Sagat he was in AE. Great AA’s and great fireballs. Sagat shouldn’t be able to keep you out though. Dash under his high fireballs, play mind games with teleports, use your fb stores.
Most zoners, once they don’t hit you, they get impatient and they jump in. For Juri or Cammy, that’s a good thing.
yea i figured it was lack of match up experience. I thinks its probably my fault because I hate playing Zoning versus Zoning, I get too impatient.
Just having a hard time with her. I don’t think I’m going to drop her completely because I DO really like the character but I was thinking about just testing some other options. 
Did anyone find a Pandora infinite/semi-infinite yet with Juri? Or a high dmg combo or something like that?
Pandora infinites are pointless. Yoshimitsu has one but the damage scaling is too intense you barely do any damage.
Even if Juri had a pandora infinite she would be better off doing cr.fierce right into Super.
I would wait until pandora has a purpose. I’d rather take a loss normally then lose because my opponent ran for 8 seconds. It’s just too unsafe to worry about using it.
The only uses I found with juri with Pandora is a reaction super. Example, see a fireball, sacrifice character bring Juri in than super, easy 400 + damage + you get like 3 seconds to chip him out. Another way is to use EX Dive kick into pandora, and follow up with whatever.
juri/julia is very strong. Juri makes up for Julia’s lack of good anti-airs and mid-far range threat vs. zoners, and in return Julia brings her fast mid-range pokes, painful rushdown and 1 frame super. Keeps pretty much all of the bases covered.
It seems the end of the run animation after a tag cancel can be cancelled with normals or specials.
For example if we use Cammy or Ryu’s DP, if we do DP xx tag(juri) > block, it gets punished, can’t block. But if we do DP xx tag(juri) > st.lp or cr.mp it seems it’s a 2~3f frametrap.
It loses to invincible move, but Juri has her teleport to create a janken situation.
So I thought I would talk a little about my team and show some of their synergy.
Yoshimitsu and Juri
Combo potential:
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Average damage output:
Meterless: 300-350 dmg
1 bar: 410-450 dmg
2 bars: 460-550 dmg
3 bars: 500-560 dmg
It’s not really practical to use more than 1 meter for a combo unless it’s going to kill, get me a time out or carry the opponent into the corner.
Reset potential:
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Yoshimitsu has many special moves that keep the opponent standing so it’s often better to go for resets instead of very long combos because they deal 300-370 guaranteed damage for 1 bar and can potentially lead to 300 more. That’s a total of 600-700 damage for 1-2 bars which is better than the best Cross Art in the game. But the best thing about it is that you build back a full bar of meter in the process. So even if my reset fails I still get something out of it (meter building/pressure).
Pros:
+Great synergy (tag combos and reset potential).
+Fast meter building.
+Air control and ground control.
+Good mid-range and keep away game (easy to run away when you have life lead).
+Very easy to carry the opponent into the corner where Juri rapes hard.
+Juri covers Yoshimitsu’s weaknesses pretty well.
Cons:
-Yoshimitsu doesn’t really cover Juri’s bad matchups.
-Yoshimitsu is very meter hungry (needs meter for resets, for AA/AtA switch, to remain safe on block etc.)
-They both have low health which means you can die very quickly if you’re not careful.
I disagree. Juri is not meter hungry. Only on defense.
My bad, I should’ve said: Yoshimitsu is so meter hungry that you won’t be able to afford the luxury of using Juri’s Super/Cross-Art and you often will have to choose between tag canceling and alpha counters.
But Yoshimitsu makes up for it by building back a ton of meter on hit and even on block. I can safe tag cancel and build back 0.5 meter on block which is nice.
I respect your team. I wish I could have a team that needs attention. I feel kazuya and juri get cheap wins. >.>
juri/kaz cause they’re strong characters that fits my gameplay style.
Yo…I’m trying Yoshimitsu. Team Vulcan.
Right now I’m running Juri/Kazuya. Team S&M (Sin + Mishima). I really like the team and I will move forward using Kazuya although he is my weaker character. He has a lot of upside, and a lot of strengths I havent used (Some targets, havent gotten EWGF down, not strong with mist step, havent looked at ANY frame data for ANY character).
I do want to try a few more characters. Vulcan hades has shown me the team synergy of Yoshimitsu/Juri. I might try this out. I still want to play xiaoyu. I want to try Nina. Heihachi is too strong to ignore, Rufus is too strong to ignore…who else…Hwoarang (although I dont wanna play him due to whack ass weirdoneo)…
I dunno…thinking
Yeah I’d like to try some new characters too. As much as I love my current team, the more I play with them the more I think they could both be better served by someone else maybe… I dunno. I’m definitely not dropping this team I’m just looking for subs so I can replace either Juri or Yoshi when needed.
Yoshimitsu for example, a lot of people say he works really well with grapplers that have a hard time getting in on people. Kuma, Hugo, Zangief and Marduk all seem like potential good teammates for Yoshi. But the problem I fear is vs heavy zoners like Raven, Sagat and Guile. Juri takes care of those zoners but the only grappler type character that seems to do well vs zoning characters is Kuma so I might try him out. King looks pretty cool too.
And for Juri, I know there are a few other characters that are able to setup her ambiguous cross up like Ken, Law, Hugo and Vega so I might try them to see how well they work with Juri. Problem is I don’t like Ken, Hugo and Vega lol. So I’m looking at Law right now…
While I’m ecstatic about my Xiaoyu/Juri team (which, shockingly, does not have a nickname), I would like to find another partner for Juri. I was thinking of someone like Lili, and I do plan to mess around with her this week to see how she can help Juri.
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I did a quick capture of BNBs and mix-ups I have atm for the Cammy x Juri team, for those interested in this team or want to get a quick idea of the team synergy.
Has anyone tried Juri/Ibuki? The little Ibuki play I’ve seen so far, she seems quite different from her AE counterpart, but enjoyable to use. Right now I’m still running Juri/Asuka, but I’m thinking Ibuki could be a fun sub on either side of that match-up. (Especially since Asuka has the Ibuki alt now ^_^)