Where did all the feminist/hipsters come from?

Hmmm so dick sucking fags check, angry white privileged males check and now bitter virgins…what’s next on the shame list dudes?

Fuck your feelings.

The rest of us think it/know it.

It is a FACT. :wink:

CvS3: Rainbow Edition

Nerf Y-ism - rapes all other isms for free, according to F[emin]-ism

Buff F-ism - loses for free to L-ism, G-ism, B-ism, and T-ism mix-ups and 50/50s, Y-ism’s pokes, and vanilla X-ism’s mindgames.

This thread is pretty darn awesome. It looks like SRK has done well with my teachings. I feel like a proud father or something, my kids have grown up and seen the light.

You didn’t fix anything scrub. Don’t pretend to be fixing something that isn’t broken.

Article on the meaning of when someone says something like, ‘she is a good mother;’:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/30/being-good-mother

I’ve seen this in my extended family with the way Italian Catholics can be.

Since the feminist apologetics had no response and refutation to the anti-feminist arguments I proclaim this a:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcPv_NAM0aU

Let it be known SRK is now safe from the white knights, pussy beggars and folks that desperately want their dicks sucked!!!

Edit: just some more icing on the cake. A modern feminist discusses how misandry is a perfectly valid feeling towards men and how feminism is suppose to be radical.

http://m.xojane.com/issues/the-new-new-misandry-what-it-means-to-man-hate-in-2013

The fact that she even cites the radical nutters with a tone of admiration is just…wonderful. Seriously feminism is that friend your always bailing out and trying to defend even though they always pull the same shit on you and make you look bad all the freaking time.

Yes. This is like religion, where people slap their god’s name on whatever BS they tried to pull off to give it legitimacy, and called whoever opposed a worshiper of satan.

If you have something to say, just say it without using the words feminism and misogyny.

Any radical movement in any form is bad. What the fuck. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Oh man, this made me laugh way too hard. While I agree that reverse racism is a stupid fucking term (racism is racism, it isn’t ‘reverse’ just because it’s directed at a white person) and gay agenda equally so, the fact that ‘misandry’ supposedly doesn’t exist is so goddamn funny to me. It’s like these feminazis were given scripts on how to parody the typical man-hating American lesbian, but they read the script so much that it indoctrinated them and they lost sight of how hilariously deluded it is.

It’s pretty indicative of society these days, too. If I made an article on a large publication saying that beating up women is hilarious and shouldn’t be frowned upon, I’d be getting death threats and letter bombs within a day. For a society that is supposedly controlled by men, women sure do get a lot of liberties that men could never hope for.

My friend and I were talking about how the Illuminati has more or less taken the place of the devil/Satan in modern times since religion isn’t as big as it used to be. In other words, people blame the Illuminati or “The Man” for their life being in a place they are not happy with, rather than working hard/harder or approaching life differently. Do you think the “male agenda” is the radical feminism equivalent to the Illuminati?

They deny misandry because it would compromise their public integrity. The feminist narrative is 1 that seeks to associate or more accurately “pin"all the evils of humanity as exclusively male or at the very least native to maleness. This gives them free reign to openly condemn men because its not contextually different then say condemning hitler or a remorseless serial killer. When feminist talk about killing men, aborting male fetuses, slaughtering male infants and children the rationalization is always"well victims always have the right to vent against their victimizers so no harm done in having a laugh at gutting a man”.

Bigots also rarely recognize their hate as actual hate as there is always some point of justification no matter how ridiculous the sentiment. Just download the agent orange files and see what feminist talk about behind close doors when the cameras aren’t rolling…amazingly even after that reveal people still want to believe in some redeemable benign motive in feminism that unsurprisingly makes it possible for people like the author of that article to deny with absolute definite certainty that misandry doesn’t exist because its simply impossible for anyone to hate men…at least to hate them for reasons that aren’t perfectly justified.

I feel that a lot of people in this thread are suffering from a bit of confirmation bias. In other words, you’re seeking out only that information that confirms the view that feminism is bad or wrong. And if you can somehow quote or reference enough sources to validate this, you’ll somehow be right. However, the flaw to this line of thinking as that we could do the exact same thing to try and vilify virtually any group of people.

So if I wanted to prove that all SRK posters were complete shitheads using this method I’d have plenty of examples to pull from. And if I wanted to really drive home my generalizations I could even add “But not all SRK posters are shitheads…” after every single trollish example. The idea is that if I pile enough examples I’ll magically become right and prove to you that SRK posters ARE shitheads beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Consider that using this method I could create an impressive list of religious people doing all kinds of radical things in the name of their faith. It might even be enough to convince you that religion as a whole is somehow evil. Again, I might add “But not all religious people are like this…” to try and head off an any arguments to the contrary.

We might even use this same method to prove that Americans are terrible people by listing out all the horrible things Americans and America has done. After all, Americans have been responsible for some pretty fucked up things. We could make quite a list! “But not all Americans are like that…”

Or maybe list out all the violence perpetuated by minorities to try and prove that darker skinned people are a plague on society. You can’t argue with the numbers! “But not all minorities are like that…”

If you’re approaching the topic of feminism with the idea that it’s bad there is no shortage of examples of ‘feminists gone bad’ to back up your point. So where are all the ‘normal and well adjusted feminists’? Probably living normal lives and not doing retarded shit to get themselves in the media. Imagine the headline…“Feminist acts completely level headed and treats men and women equally”. Yeah I don’t think that’s going to get many readers.

I say this because a lot of the shit that is getting referenced in this thread (and even by that video of the guy repeating ‘but not all feminists are like that…’) are designed to create controversy and get hits. People acting in normal non-radical ways aren’t going to get reported or focused on. I seriously doubt any of you were at any of these horrible feminist fiasco events that have been referenced, so keep in mind the influence of media. It’s called media because it’s indirect communication (you’re using a medium). You weren’t there, someone else is telling you about it.

I see myself as a feminist and I’m definitely saying that I’M not like that.

A lot of the shit that has been posted and referenced in this thread to discredit feminism disgusts me as well. Just because a lot of shortsighted people are getting a lot of attention for being dipshits doesn’t mean all of us are that way nor does it mean we support those views. I personally don’t see those portrayals as being fair to feminists in general and I don’t see such extreme and fundamentalist views as being a true representation of the values of feminism even if others would try and assert otherwise.

As far as why it’s called feminism, it’s because in the realm of gender equality the female gender has traditionally and historically been oppressed with fewer rights, privileges, and freedoms. So getting females equal to males would have created equality in a classic sense, or at the very least, addressed a lot of the problems that existed in society. This isn’t to say that there were NO circumstances where women had it better, just that most cases of imbalanced social justice ended up with females being more limited and getting the short end of the stick. I would agree that the term ‘feminism’ probably should be changed, but outside of western society there’s a veritable fuckload of oppression directed at women simply for being women.

But feminism isn’t the only group whose name was born in a time of assumed disenfranchisement. Look at the NAACP. A lot of people take issue with their name as well, and they insist they’re not only concerned for colored people.

…so it’s confirmation bias to pay special attention to the organized political efforts and over arching theories and ideas of a movement who does the opposite of what it says?

I again refer to the video I posted 2 pages back which I have yet to see properly debunked…it also doesn’t stand to reason that a movement with the intention of "equality for all"has only visibly ever been concerned with 1 half of that equation whilst completely ignoring the other half of the population. If you take issue with our opinions of feminism then you have no one else to blame then the real world influential feminist and the theories and ideals that have informed the movement since its inception.

I will once again say that the problem with apologetics is their routine dishonesty in trying to be proclaim feminism as a openly interpretative idea about equal rights yet at the same time assume some self authorizing position in declaring who and who isn’t a real feminist. The feminist at NOW or VAWA or the ladies at Jezebel are not" cherry picked"rare examples we all just pull to soil the good name of feminism…and again the fact that you would choose to associate with a ideology which can demonstratively be proven as bigoted,hateful and deceptive with empirically sound, verifiable evidence and examples is not our issue.

People won’t be convinced with consistent efforts to remind everyone what"feminism is supposed to mean"while being told to ignore the shit in front of them as if its only outliners saying crazy radical nonsense. If your a feminist then own it…it’s no ones fault your religion just happens to inspire so many crazies.

It’s confirmation bias to point out only the most extreme and vocal examples to classify an entire group of people.

Please reference my point above, I could make impressive lists to vilify any group of people. I would agree with you that a lot of those referenced people are fucked up. Where I disagree with you is how much you can use that to generalize to everyone who identifies as a feminist.

Virtually any group that is concerned with social justice picks out a particular cause and focuses on that. Sometimes that cause is based on gender, race, or ethnicity. Sometimes it’s about a mental disorder or physical disability. Sometimes it’s about low SES or being from a particular neighborhood, city, state, country, etc.

Ideally I’d rather humanity come together and try and address things on a larger scale, but it seems people are much more prone to pick their cause and rally for that. If this is your gripe with feminism I’d say it’s not unique in that aspect and you should be crying foul with any group dedicated to advocating for a group that makes up only a fraction of the population.

But I will say that globally speaking, females are a little over half the world population. So if you’re going to pick a group to advocate for, at least make it as inclusive as possible.

I’d say crazies can be inspired by anything, and at times it seems like they’re just waiting for an excuse to act out to justify themselves. Again, this isn’t unique to feminism. People will find reasons to act out, whether it’s nationalism or social justice. Radical movements are a pretty common occurrence throughout history, even if relatively few people in society actually participate in them.

I’ll say again, I’m a feminist and I’m not like that. I think one of the things that you might be struggling with is trying to categorize all feminists together when there are a lot of different types and even unique and individualized perceptions of the movement.

That’s all well and good Match, but for fucks sake will you guys stop forcing your label upon us, and please get rid of the chauvinism that only you guys can talk about gender issues. You don’t own the discussion, so step aside.

though to Match’s credit she has been the only feminist in here not to take shots at us by branding us as homosexuals(again the irony of this being used as an insult by a feminist is just too delicious), bitter virgins, or misogynistic patriarchs

EDIT: Also would be nice if you guys would stop the double dipping bullshit of judging other groups(such as MRAs and Anti-Feminists) by their psychos, yet claiming your psychos and the fucked up shit in feminist theory is not “true feminism”.

I’m not that kind of feminist. Gender issues affect everyone, and while women have their issues men certainly have theirs as well. This isn’t even to mention all the grey areas of gender between masculine and feminine. I feel everyone has some kind of gender identity and has a claim in the discussion of gender rights.

While the female gender has certainly had some hard times historically, it doesn’t mean that females should have any ability to direct and moderate the gender topic.

I don’t think ad hominems are really going to open up any kind of constructive discourse, but you’re welcome.

If I don’t condemn other groups based on how you act, I think I’m doing ok. :stuck_out_tongue:

ALL SRK posters ARE complete shitheads.

Why would anyone even dispute that lol.

Bahhahaha, love you too Match <3

edit: +1 to angelpalm

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Pushing for “women’s rights” and pushing for “equal rights” are different things entirely. It’s why, as I’ve stated multiple times, if overall equality was what feminists were seeking out, then there would be no feminism in the first place, and the people you see as feminists would really just support egalitarianism.

While I agree with you on an ideal level, I’d say this argument can be applied to practically any other interest group.

So perhaps you shouldn’t direct your complaint towards feminism specifically, but how humanity tends to take up causes in general.