Where did all the feminist/hipsters come from?

I don’t agree that feminism has consistently been about equality. Judging by its organized efforts, theories, commonly used terms and concepts, activism and the overall themes and values the movement has demonstrated since its inception…it’s more accurate to say feminist is a movement whom’s only interest has been women. This in itself isn’t a problem for me but I just hate the intellectual dishonesty in pretending that by focusing exclusively on only 1 half of the populations problems you solve everyone’s problems. If they could just be honest in saying they only give a fuck about women I would let them off the hook for lot of their BS.

While I’m on the subject I wanna post another vid that I think perfectly defines my opinion on yesterday’s subject of"defining feminism"or at last demonstrating its hypocrisy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6qg8Up3PnU

Fighting for equal rights for everybody doesn’t make you a feminist, it makes you an egalitarian. The main argument seems to be that ''WELL IF WE WANT WOMEN TO BE EQUAL THAT MEANS THAT MEN WOULD BE EQUAL", which is true, but women that consider themselves feminists scarcely fight to right the wrongs that are targeted at men, often saying it’s ‘not their fight’. Well, neither is censoring the artistic integrity of people in the gaming industry because of this weird mindset where their artistic license becomes invalidated when it crosses over into your sensitivity zone.

Unfortunately, ‘feminism’ has become less of a proper social movement and has instead become a defensive barrier that misandrist babies use to try and add legitimacy to their hatred of men. Even better is that, in the modern age, there are a lot of different dictionaries that have differing wording for definitions of things, which is perfect for up and coming anti-men tumblr pages to throw up as a header, citing that THE DICTIONARY SAYS THAT MISOGYNY IS ANYTHING TELLING ME I’M WRONG!

Lmao, feminists fucking crack me up. They’ll forcefully brand anyone they agree with a Feminist(whether or not that person personally considers themselves a feminist) yet break ranks from professed feminists like Solanas and co. that make them look bad. Lmao.

edit: I just wish some of the smug fascists in here could see the mockery and dismissal a couple of white feminists in a class of mine gave a womanist for describing why she chose womanism over feminism as a descriptor. If you seriously think those women were all operating from the same framework you are deluding yourself.

Waiting for more tap dancing and non-answers.

Amen. It could even be argued in some way that since Feminism focuses on improving things for women, just as Masculism focuses on improving things for men, that Feminism is in and of itself sexist. Now obviously there are some things women should have that men cannot physically have and would be ridiculous to ask for the equivalent of, such as maternity and pregnancy leave at jobs, but that doesn’t mean that the way to solve the problems that women may be having is to look at just one piece of the whole. If you’re solving a jigsaw puzzle you have to look at the entire thing and put it together that way, not just decide whether the piece you have is a corner one or not.

Also, I think oftentimes Feminists will mistake true equality things such as “Equal Opportunity” for things such as “Equal Reward”. If a job has 10 openings, then while it’s true that everybody should have an equal chance at the job regardless of gender/sexuality/race/religion, then it’s a discriminatory mindset to instantly think that the positions should be filled to 5 men and 5 women. In that case, deciding who gets a position based off of anything other than skillset/qualifications/ability to get the job done, and factoring in some sort of quota is discrimination. If the best 10 qualified candidates happen to be 7 men and 3 women, or 6 women and 4 men, then so be it, as to feel the need to snub 2 of the men in the first group, or one of the women in the second in order to even things up is rather silly.

I don’t think this is unique to feminism. If someone sees an individual as being advantageous to have on their side they’ll seek to apply their label and hope that person or others accepts it. Keep in mind there is no leader of feminism, so who gets to define what quickly turns into semantics.

For me feminism is a type of egalitarianism that focuses on gender.

I would say anytime anyone attempts to universalize it creates an opportunity for false classification.

I gave my definition. But it’s all semantics anyway since definition is a very personal thing.

Oh shit, the woman beating brigade is out in full force. Hopefully good has something better than saying we’re all sucking each others dicks.(though I notice feminists love vulgar insults of their enemies, so what can you do)

What is a feminist?

Not, what is feminism trying to accomplish?

This would have been acceptable right here, not some “I am afraid to give a concrete definition because it might expose me” bullshit.

Match says some really stupid shit, but she’s on point here.

In any case I don’t see how it could be semantics if you take feminist literally(including the meaning of the word).

“Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women”

Saying it has no definition allows it to be everything and nothing at the same time, ridiculous. Feminism advocates for equality from the perspective of women, saying it’s equality for everyone is calling it something it isn’t(an ideology that does not have women as the focal point of its perspective and program).

More of my favorite cases of feminist doublethink(from the mouths of actual feminists):

“I hope you or someone in your family gets raped so you know what it feels like” - Always said by women who have never been raped yet claim to advocate for rape victims. A genuine rape victim(and I’ve known several) has never wished such a horrible thing on me or for fucks sake my family members because I disagreed with them.

“Men talk about feminism so much, when it isn’t about them at all, it really does not concern them”(in the sense that feminists do not give a shit about men’s issues so why are men opening their mouths? Despite feminists talking nothing about shit about mean considering their whole doctrine stems from Patriarchy theory) - from the words of an ex gf of mine who was a tried and true feminist, with quite the smirk on her face as she said it.

This is all that needs to be said.

It’s a self interest group only concerned with 1 group of people’s problems…the momment people try to claim it speaks for all gender is the moment we get people like Anita.

^Excellent point on gender, though I really don’t know wtf you’re whining about SuperTroll, it’s not like feminists have ever discriminated against sexual minorities(like they did racial minorities):


http://www.gendercompass.net/2012/08/femen-brazil.html

Fucking anti-feminists&gender egalitarians(not mutually exclusive btw) misrepping feminism and sucking each others’ dicks(though humorous good used that to insult me and SuperTroll yet feminists and LBGT activists are thought to walk in lock-step). You ought to be ashamed.

Wrongs targeted at men? It must be hard, having tits and asses flailed at your face, but no crotch shots of male baggage. Obviously under represented males are.

Seriously though, people who complain about misandry are so used to being on the privileged end that equality for them is 80/20 in their favour, anything less is misandric bullshit.

By the way:

Here’s some footage of feminism at work. By Enel.
The right of shocking anyone to death regardless by gender.

Ah, another age old feminist trick, saying that any criticism of feminism must be coming from privileged white males afraid of losing power.

News flash for you buddy, if I had lived even a 100 years back I’d probably be hanging from a tree by now as some of my ancestors were(you know, despite my male privilege and all). Get a grip.

As if women are the only ones who get a raw deal in media portrayals. How many jokes get cracked about men being raped in prison? Or how boys are stupid, throw rocks at them. And no one seems to complain seeing men topless or wearing speedos in ads(I’m reminded of the whole Dragon’s Crown controversy with people whining about the women but being mum as fuck on the near naked dwarf and the hyper-masculinized fighter). Spare me the sub story.

With all this talk about feminism, I really feel that the hipster aspect is being neglected. I have links to hipsters doing bad things like enjoying The Room unironically, and I think they show hipsters for what they truly are.

Just got done listening to some Chris Brown and writing down ways I’m going to push back women’s rights, all while preordering Dragon’s Crown. Gotta keep those feminine energies away from me.

What the hell are you talking about? Are you honestly trying to tell me that there is a shortage of half naked men on television? I’m of both persuasions, too, so don’t try and hit me with that ‘straight white man’ invisible privilege tax bullshit. By the way, I’m half cast, so if we went back not even 80 years I’d either be raped by elders in our own tribes or unable to do basic human things in a white person’s town.

Nice work proving what we’ve been saying, though. It’s fine to bitch about DUH PATRIARKYYYYY and MUH PRIVUHLIGEEEE but as soon as misandry or inequality towards men is brought up, it’s just an imaginary term that us evil white people made up to keep women down. Way to perpetuate the idea that feminism is a hug box that vehemently denies any sound logic inside of it.

I’m so ashamed…no wonder feminist want us reduced to 10%.

^Hahha yeah I’m trying to find the original right now, but I remember reading a quote by a feminist saying most men should be exterminated and forced into labor camps, only being let out to do other things as long as they weren’t a threat. I’d be comedic gold were she not deadly serious in saying it.

Seriously, fuck Feminism.(which does not = “Fuck women”)

What is a Feminist!?!?

A miserable pile of semen!

Well even if they’re miserable piles of semen it’s MUCH better than being a man(despite men having all the privileges and forming a world-wide team to oppress women):

Shit how do I stop being a man quick?

Shit how do I stop being a black man quick? I’m double trouble(half tongue in cheek though the expressions I got from some of the white feminists while I was at college would make you think I was a combination of a high powered filthy rich patriarch who beat my wives and daughters as a hobby and a black brute who would snatch them off the street the minute they turned their eyes off me)

That’s some real Y the Last man shit right there lol.