When Servbots aren't Enough: Tron MvC3 Team-Building thread

Boeyoyo · August 14, 2011, 1:37am

ThisGuileKillYa:

Thanks, that was all extremely helpful! Was just watching kerahime too, but he and his opponent were great fun to watch! (A zero doom sent player) for the. JMMHS rather than delay starting the combo, I’m just doing the MM portion slower and its workin great. But new issue arrises: the otg. With. Drones. Now midscreen, on dash up, should this always be doable with proper timing? Or is it corner only? Also in the corner sometimes its dropping anyway. I’m sure ill figure it out, but might as well ask anyway: is there a certain way it needs to be done? I call drones as I hit the down H, and tend to let the cH hit a few times before going to fwd H. It usuually works fiine, but sometimes drops during the cH fwd H. Wondering if u knew why. Again, ill prob figure it out, but nothing wrong with being spoon fed a lil thanks again! God this team is fun as fugg

Yup the combo works midscreen just fine. It’s always doable(as long as it’s not on Zero). For Midscreen I call Drones as soon as I land and do dash up c.H. If it’s messing up in the corner I think you’re letting c.H go too long or calling the Drones too late. If I land in the corner I call drones and then do c.H right after I hit the assist button. IIRC I let c.H only hit 2 or 3 times before I cancel into Bandit Boulder.

ThisGuileKillYa · August 17, 2011, 7:38pm

Question is primarily for Branespload since our teams are similar, but anyone with a good answer please chime in. With Tron Sent Haggar, I’m having success, except vs Phoenix team. basically, this is a collection of 3 free wins for Phx lol Rather than try to think of tech to combat Dark Phx, I think the key is good tacts early on, from the snap. On Snap I’ve been calling drones then jumping up with jMMH xxdrill, then drones hit. The thing is, I find that, since getting beaten up by Tron builds meter for both sides, I basically have to kill Phx on the snap, or dark wont be preventable. I only get one, maybe 2 chances. Getting the snap isn’t so hard, but knowing my welcome mixup MUST connect, otherwise I lose kinda blows.

If I have to switch teams for the matchup, so be it, but I’m killing non-Phoenix teams, so it kinda sucks to be so neutered by a single strategy. It’s basically characters that can super jump and shoot 3-6 tracking slow FBs that can stop me. Barnespload, is Doom your Phx killer? Because trying to catch with Sent Hard Drives ain’t cuttin it. I can try to beat the crap out of their 1st 2 characters then RUUUNNNN, but don’t think that will prove to be a stable approach in the end. Any thoughts?

branespload · August 17, 2011, 9:02pm

Doom is the best I can do to kill Phoenix since he has some photon array traps and guard cancel XF3 -> doom time but generally i lose vs. phoenix and just deal with it lol

ThisGuileKillYa · August 17, 2011, 10:09pm

Well… that’s unfortunate LOL Kinda makes me feel better and feel worse at the same time. I think if the welcome setup can be leveraged into forcing them to block an assist (likely drones/missiles, definitely Lariat), the option of a command grab becomes very real. If that can be consistently set up as a mixup with cL, we’d at least get a 50/50 for our troubles.

ThisGuileKillYa · August 19, 2011, 12:00am

So for the reasons above, I replaced Sentinel. He wasn’t great on point, but I am sad to see the drones go. I messed with Doom, but settled on Dante for now. With Doom, though, how do you prevent the missiles from hitting during the launch? Kept getting that. Anyway, the combo itself works reeeally easy with jam Session, DHC glitch is even more damaging with Dante (despite no HSF connecting), and Dante’s just a far better point. Downsides are no long distance assist and the fact my combo with Dante off Lariat kinda blows. But Tron can go into BNB off Jam Session pretty nicely so that’s cool. It’s also funny playing a Dante with both Tron and Haggar assists. Doesn’t much help him get in, but once he is, it’s a pretty sweet setup lol

branespload · August 19, 2011, 12:57am

Dante and Haggar are practically best friends. Have you seen Duey or Richard Nguyen play them? The mixup potential is sickening.

For Doom’s missiles to not hit, you have to do your aerial combo quickly… if you delay too long in the air the missiles will hit and not OTG, causing a sj. height reset…

ThisGuileKillYa · August 19, 2011, 9:33pm

Yeah definitely seen the power of Dante and Haggar! And seen Richard, but didn’t realize Duey played it too, thanks! I really like Duey’s Dante as well, I’m surprised I didn’t stumble on that anyway. For Doom missiles I found they were connecting as I was on my way up to air combo, and I was even doing just sjHS for my air combo. And experimented with different timings on when to call missiles. It didn’t happen always, but in the corner seemed to at least half the time. Oh well.

branespload · August 19, 2011, 11:44pm

What I do after fire-> j.MMH is s.M, confirm they’re at the right height for about 2-4 hits then call Doom, then press s.S and do my magic series, then dash forward or backward depending where I am on screen to get the timing and spacing right, then beacon bomb.

Boeyoyo · August 23, 2011, 9:48am

Started playing Wesker(Edge)/Tron(Gustaff)/Doom(Shield) today. This team is so damn ridiculous. Great keepaway, free meter, DHC Glitch, hella safe resets, and mixups within mixups. The only bad thing i’ve found so far about this team is the DHC synergy(Including THCs). I most likely will try out Nemesis/Wesker/Doom when UMvC3 drops.

DuskStriker · October 10, 2011, 11:13am

So i have a team problem once UMvC comes out. My team is Skrull(tenderider)/Dante(jam session)/tron(gustaff) Once ultimate is released i will need to get a replacement for tron. Any suggestions on who i should use?

bdreamer642 · October 19, 2011, 7:10am

Is it possible to use shumas mystic Ray assist to land beacon bomb after using trons down+h in the corner? I’ve been trying, and it seems like it might be possible. Anyone have any luck with this?

Boeyoyo · October 19, 2011, 8:02am

I never bought Shuma Gorath so I can’t test it out for c.H->f.H. You might be able to call Mystic Ray as soon as you land after an air magic series though.

Gemakai · October 31, 2011, 5:43pm

Working on a new team with Felicia and Tron, trying to find a good third that fits in nicely. Originally tried Magneto, and his beam does help both characters extend combos but can’t OTG into beacon bomb. Then I tried Chris with gunfire, who fits better if you can time it right, but when he’s on the field the other two’s assists (Buckler and Gustaff) don’t cut it.

I’m wondering who to try next. Might consider Doctor Doom with Rocks as it works both as a tool to hold opponent’s in place as well as a cover tool. Any other suggestions?

REALPLAYER · November 14, 2011, 3:56am

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i still have faith in tron. cheap shit is still full speed ahead. couple of adjustments. no problemo.

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they’re from the same game. now all we need is megam…nah, fuck that character

THEQUEENOFLOVEHD · November 15, 2011, 8:49am

lol so I’m not the only one who did those in my head? good stuff! I look forward to maining Tron in Ultimate

Drizzt_Do_urden · November 15, 2011, 5:04pm

so tron is ASS in ultimate quite a horrible character compared to her vanilla glory (on point that is)

but tonight I had great success with my tron/rocket raccoon combo

tron can really only start big damage off her J.S which causes a ground bounce but with rocket racoons wall bounce assist I’m able to get some sick shit going I was actually considering dropping her after hearing about all the tron nerfs and after playing her on point for about 20 games or so I was completely sure I’d drop her cause lets face it shes ass…but with the right assist I’m seeing potential

is this just day one “people have no idea wtf to do” or does she still have “somthing” worth using ?

I’ve been a day one tron user (mvc2 days day one my MVC2 team that I bring to tournaments TODAY is still sent/cable/tron and that shit does work)

are people finding shit that makes her viable in ultimate or should I just give up?

I still cant really get in or seriously feel like a threat in with tron on point but she can do work…I’m able to hit 2 meter 900k damage combos with no X factor with my current setup of skrull/tron/raccoon

please give me a reason to believe SRK!

THEQUEENOFLOVEHD · November 15, 2011, 6:25pm

The game just came out, it will take some time to get in the groove with new Tron. She is a completely revamped character. Rome wasn’t built in a day!

ImNIGHTMARE · November 30, 2011, 7:45am

I hope we see some of her soon. She was one of my favourites in MVC3, she still has the tools to get the job done. Just more work has to be put in, you can’t just throw her on a team because of a godlike assist, because that’s gone.

Timic83 · December 3, 2011, 8:25am

doom/tron/strange

i call this team trons therapists (doctors who help her through her rape experience)

eye of aggomatto helps combos so much for tronzie

B_RaBBiiTT · December 5, 2011, 1:47am

Taskmaster and Storm are two that I’m considering putting on the same team as her.

Taskmaster/Storm/Tron

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1. Who does your team consist of (in order of selection)?

Taskmaster/Storm/Tron

2. What assists will your characters use (in order of selection)?

Up Arrows/Lightning Strike/Bandit Boulder

3. What type of game-play strategy are you pursuing with this team? (Explain)

Versatility is the best way to describe this team, I’m aiming for a good mix of keepaway and rushdown, with a hint of a good chip damage game.

4. What advantages does your point (first selected) character have?

Good overall damage, nice combos into Legion Arrow then DHC into Hailstorm, solid defense in the form of counters and hyper counters, can use Aim Master (Aim of Hawkeye) to keepaway as well as rushdown with the help of assists, decent mobility.

*** What disadvantages does your point character have?**

Like most other Jack-of-all-trades type characters, he isn’t the best at either role. His air mobility options are quite limited other than using Spidey Swing to get around. Lack of a level 3 hyper that can blow through a level 1 hyper.

*** What maneuverability options does your point character have?**

Cancel-able ground dash, Spidey Swing for air movement.

*** How will your assists aid your point character?**

Lightning Attack should be a good supplement to his anti-air capabilities. Bandit Boulder should help him extend combos which will then link to either a Shield Bash into launch combo, or a Spidey Swing into air-to-air Legion Arrow.

5. What advantages does your secondary character have?

Just like her MvC 2 counterpart, she is extremely versatile, she still can tri-dash and has IMO the most valuable level 1 hyper in the game in that she is able to combo into that from almost anywhere, it does good chip damage and is safe on block and the fact that it also does wonders as a DHC, she is still fast and has some of the best rushdown/keepaway/mixup capabilities of all the characters, not to mention flight.

*** What disadvantages does your secondary character have?**

Below average health, unable to build meter while running away and again, mostly a jack-of-all-trades type character, although she still performs extremely well in either role.

*** What maneuverability options does your secondary character have?**

One of the characters with the best dash capabilities in the game (Fast 8-way air dashes) and flight.

*** How will your assists aid your secondary character?**

Up arrows will help with anti-crossup situations and Bandit Boulder just like with Taskmaster, will help with combo extending and pretty good damage/chip (Come on, it’s the closest you will ever get to a broken projectile assist in this game).

6. What advantages does your last character have?

Some of the best normals in the game, air dash into jumping hard works as a really good crossup, assists allow her to do great damage before she even has to take point and it’s relatively safe and difficult to punish due to it being fast to start-up and leave, tied for the third highest health value in the game (1.2 Mil) and of course, the infamous safe drill into command grab or a level 3 is just devastating for people who are too reliant on blocking.

*** What disadvantages does your last character have?**

Mobility is better than most of the other heavies but is still very limited, cannot play keepaway like the other 2 members of my team, no real anti-air besides the angled capture gun and servbot air-raid (Or whatever it’s called), other than the drill, her specials are nothing spectacular though still decent in fulfilling niche roles such as anti-rushdown.

*** What maneuverability options does your last character have?**

Ground dash, forward and backward air dash and drill.

*** How will your assists aid your last character?**

If my other 2 members are not already dead by the time I absolutely have to use her on point then of course, same thing goes: Up arrows for anti-crossup and Lightning Attack to help with anti-air.

7. What kind of Delayed Hyper Combo opportunities do you think your team will have?

Legion Arrow > Hailstorm
Legion Arrow > Lunch Rush (If Storm is dead)
Lunch Rush > Hailstorm
Lunch Rush > Legion Arrow

8. What type of impact will your Team Hyper Combo have on your opponent (Explain)?

Not too sure, on the ground, a THC up close will probably cause all three hypers to hit, further away, King Servbot won’t get many hits if any, in the air, only hailstorm will hit unless Servbot has a hitbox up there.

9. What are some of the weaknesses of your team?

Nothing too serious, besides the obvious problem of having versatile options means that specialized teams will be more of a threat, but other than that, it’s pretty solid to me.

10. After filling out this questionnaire, are you still comfortable with your team?

Yes, but any input is highly welcomed, some insight into better assists are also welcomed.

Although this was like two weeks ago. I’m considering some slight variations in my setup. I might switch out her bandit boulder assist with gustaff fire if it’s “almost fully invincible” as EmptyShiki says. And I might swap out Storm for 50Sent for his OTG assist.