So just got the stick in the mail today, I raced home from Uni when I got the msg it arrived LOL. This is truly outstanding.
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So just got the stick in the mail today, I raced home from Uni when I got the msg it arrived LOL. This is truly outstanding.
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So long time lurked first time poster First a little background…I’m an 80s baby so I grew up playing all the old school fighting games, sf2 (all versions) mk 1-3, tekken, even mvc and mvc2 (altho i really sucked at 2! Lol) etc. I was never the greatest and didn’t go to tourneys just played for fun. A few months back I finally got back into gaming and naturally I picked up where I left off, with fighters. I bought umvc3 and I love it. The fast paced action and the million things to pay attention to are great. I caught on pretty fast and since I only play for fun I seem to have the right attitude for this game as in I never get mad or pissed when I get OCVd or lamed out even when that means I barely get to press a button. Anyways after messing around I finally decided I really like zero (remember I’m old enough to have played megaman 1 brand new! Lol) and since I played strider in both mvc and mvc2 I also settles on him as an anchor. So my question is, who do I use as my 2nd character? I know both Dante and Vergil are the primary suggestions but having tried them both I have to admit I don’t really like or enjoy using either. For Dante I just can’t get the hang of bold canceling and Vergil’s neutral game is a little tough too since there’s no room for error with his normals without using meter. My execution is ok (working on the LL but I’m all set on everything else) and I seem to enjoy the pixie and faster characters the most even if they do have low hp lol. Basically I kno I need a good neutral assist or combo extender but I’m really at a loss because I just don’t know the whole roster or what they can do that well. Oh and also I want to apologize ahead of time if this has already been covered but I just don’t have the time to read through every page of both this thread and the team building one to see if my exact question was answered. And I know this should’ve gone in the team thread but this one gets checked more often so sorry for that too lol. Any help you guys can give would be great as from what I’ve seen the zero players on SRK seem to be some of the most knowledgeable around along with the Viper players. Thanks again!
Because DHCs are theoretically irrelevant for Zero due to the LL, you want to look for assists that satisfy 3 criteria:
A combo ender with raw damage that will lead to a LL setup
A corner to corner combo extender that will let Zero carry to the corner to get the LL setup
A strong neutral game assist that allow for mixups and/or zoning.
Zero’s best partners usually cover 2 of these areas. For example, Vergil Rapid Slash covers 1 and 2, and Strider Vajra covers 1 and 3. Dante is widely known to be Zero’s best partner because Jam Session covers all 3 criteria (though 2 to a lesser degree).
Here’s my personal list of characters that really help Zero (As in, they fit 2 of those criteria or more)
Dante Jam Session - 1, 2, 3
Vergil Rapid Slash - 1, 2
Strider Vajra - 1, 3
Doom Missiles - 1, 2, 3 (See Dark Hadou’s video below)
Doom Beam, Hawkeye/Task Arrows, Magneto Disrupter - 2, 3
Akuma Tatsu - 2, 3
Sentinel Drones - 1, 3
Amaterasu - 2, 3
Honorable mentions (Only satisfy 1 of the requirements but are super strong on point or have some redeeming quality to put them on the team)
Viper Burning Kick - 2
Hsien Ko Senpu Bu - 1, (3 with Gold Armor)
Wesker Samurai Edge - 2
Deadpool Katana-Rama - 2
Spencer Grapple - 2
Frank West Shopping Cart - 3, (Maybe 2? I haven’t tested it)
Phoenix TK Overdrive - 2
Dormammu Dark Hole - 1, 2, 3, but mediocre at all and hard to execute
Iron Man - 2, 3
I’m sure there are others that other people can mention but that’s my own personal experience.
Since you’ve also decided to use Strider, who covers 1 and 3, your third character really only needs to cover number 2. I would recommend picking a character that benefits from Vajra as well. From my list, I think the characters that benefit from Strider but also help Zero satisfy critera 2 would be Dante, Doom (Beam), and Wesker. Coincidentally, I have played all three of those characters with a Zero/Strider shell, and while Dante is the best fit, I know you don’t like him so you might want to try Doom or Wesker. If you’re brand new, I would recommend playing Wesker first since you already have Zero and Strider to learn, might as well make it easy on yourself and play 2 heavy execution characters rather than 3.
Missiles is 1,2,3 really. So is Plasma Beam.
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Ah, nice. The more you know!
So Iv been messing around for the past couple hours using Iron Fist in the 2nd spit with his dragon kick assist and let me just say…wow. Between fist for the neutral game and to cover regular jump height and strider with vajra for sj height zero is able to just totally shu down so much of the screen and make people scared to move…not too mention fist has some pretty good dhcs and deals good damage. The fact that he also has some decent hp also helps considering the other 2 characters. Honestly the only tough part is getting used to IFs movement since I’m so used to the more mobile characters (his wave dash is damn good though). I know what I’m doing with this team is barely scratching the surface of what’s possible with this team. Maybe one of you more experienced players can give it a try and let us know how good the team really is.
ironfist/zero is really strong together and does fit 1,2,3. If you want evidence of it youtube recent vids of me playing.
I would put him up there with jam session as one of zero’s strongest assists only cause he has more tools in the neutral game category. The only problem with using him is you sacrifice a potential 3rd character. He sucks as anchor.
I agree that IF is a bad anchor but that’s why I use him 2nd and strider to clean up. Zero gets great mileage out of both their assists and Fist can capitalize pretty good off vajra as well. This seems to be the strongest setup for this team that I can see.
Also if u can link me and videos of that zero/IF play it would be greatly appreciated. As I’m just starting out with that team I could def use any help I can get to start leveling up
I agree that using fist as an anchor is kind of a waste. Not that he’s bad but his ability to cleanup when its 3vs1 is def not that great. That’s why I use him second and use strider as anchor who is one
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Sorry about that. I left the page and didn’t realize my previous comments were still there just at the end of my newly written ones lol
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Iron fist can pretty much be used as a mix-up assist, get off me assist, and a anti-air assist on normal jump height. The only things he cant really do that dante can is lock down and super jump anti air assist.
Go Zero/Iron Fist/Strider, You seem to have problem With Air zoning since your forced to fight back with projectiles which wasnt working, You still have Iron Fist amazing assist and it seems like you only use X-23 for OTGs and not much else. WIth Strider you can control ground and air well and Strider backs ups Iron fist so amazingly.
Thanx for the vids Meep!. Damn ur x-23 is scary lol. So I’ve been labing it up after watching your videos and Ive got to say they’ve been a huge help. The only difference is since I lack an otg assist I’m pretty much forced to do a real short combo after getting a hit with IF in the neutral and either go straight into LL after or dhc into IF and use a sogenmu powered assist to help me get in and finish the other character. The problem is I’m nowhere near as proficient at the loop as I’d like to be so I usually try to go for the dhc which means I always need to bars ready to go. Do u have any suggestions on a possible reset instead so I can either kill without burning any bar or if I do only 1?
You gotta learn LL if you play zero. You could also run zero/if/dante. Use both combo extenders and do rekkha into spirit of the dragon. That does at least 1 m. I use to run that team, but I really hate making teams where its centered around zero.
HaikuWar I would run another character to make zero better, but I love playing x-23
Put a picture of Zero on it, with the green buttons put in place of his green boobs. It’ll be like you’re touching his chest everytime! If that’s what you were planning to do already disregard this lol.
Yo we need to STICKY a thread with all this info foreal whos the UMVC3 mod? I can get it stickied and a few others.
There is none, just look for whoever is the active/ online mod right now and send em a message. Apparently threads have to say “UMVC3” in the title to be stickied.
K well to the guy who made the original post we should work on the assist guide, I feel like it would help immensely. Anyone else think so?
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Cheers. I think it’d be a great idea to pool everyone’s teams together to form a comprehensive list of good Zero assists. The numbering thing is my own opinion on what kind of assists make a good Zero team, but I’m sure there are people who value other things as well. Still, I think those 3 categories are broad enough to fit any assist in the game.
I feel like this is a retarded question but after reading that post I have to wonder…how do you get Tatsu to be a corner carry assist? And Ammy? Not saying it isn’t possible and I haven’t like, tried them extensively but they were not-straightforward enough to the point that I didn’t feel it was worth the effort.
Tatsu’s a hassle, dunno about Ammy (apart from the usual LMHf+H,Cold Star Hits, MHf+H starter)