I’ve been playing 3rd Strike for 7yrs and seen just about every good high lvl JP player and have heard of nearly every decent to good US player. But Im wondering who the hell is DSP?
EDIT: Oh nevermind I saw the youtube linked Scrub Fighter 4 video. Thats why…
Personally I don’t believe in the term. It’s degrading.
Without confusing it with personality traits such as arrogance or ignorance.
I think a better term for it is inexperience, uneducated or unenlightened.
Just because you win, doesn’t mean your good. It could be that you guessed right or that your opponent is bad. Really bad.
Cheap tactics only exist in glitch filled or broken games, everyone else is using it as excuse. The tactics could be difficult to counter.
So at best a scrub is a poor player?
A new, inexperienced player, is different from a scrub. It’s not a problem to be new or inexperienced. Hell, we’ve ALL started at some place.
But a scrub maintains that mentality to whine, bitch, and complain first whenever he encounters an obstacle. A scrub doesn’t bother trying to change how he plays, tries to identify his own shortcomings and weaknesses, and just complains about how something is “cheap.” If you ever hear someone vehemently complain about how something is “cheap” but doesn’t try to figure out a solution, he/she is a scrub, no matter how much experience they have.
I got called a scrub twice this week, both for the same reason.
End of the match, trapped in a block string by an Ibuki and a Cody respectively, I think ‘fuck it’ and start mashing an Ultra. The players drop their combo, eat a full-powered Seichusen Godanzuki and I take the game.
The way I see it, it’s part of the game. If you’re gonna risk a block string at the end of the match, you know what might happen if you mess up! I can’t count the number of times I’ve been blown up by a mid-block string Shoryuken.
I wouldn’t mind being called a ‘jammy bastard’ or ‘lucky’, but I think ‘scrub’ is the wrong definition.
You don’t know what a scrub is, as is evident by you thinking inexperienced is or uneducated is a better word.
Logical recap
Just because the the person calling you a scrub doesn’t know what the word actually means or you have a skewed understanding of what the word means does not mean that actual scrubs fitting the correct definition don’t exist.
Scrub is not a derogatory term for all new players, or all people who aren’t that good, it is description of a very specific subsection of players, Calling anyone who loses alot, or to you, or mashes, or can’t do combos a scrub is as accurate as calling every coin a penny. The problem is when new players initially start playing they hear the world scrub from people who don’t know what it means then they start using it incorrectly too.
Again imagine if your mom called all coins pennies and that is what you then to call them as a kid, now imagine it is the first day of school and all of the other kids are trying to figure out what is wrong with you because you keep calling quarters and nickels pennies. Its not your fault that you were taught that, but it still doesn’t make it correct.
If your mashed ultra worked in a block string, it’s not a real block string. Block strings are designed so that you can’t do anything…at all…except block. If they left gaps in their attacks, it’s just an attack string with gaps that they intentionally or unintentionally created.
And that, in and of itself isn’t scrubby. What’s scrubby is if, hypothetically, you continued mashing ultras even if it doesn’t work, and then complaining about how it should have worked.
Generally, this is a poor habit to develop, since a good player will notice that you mash during your opponent’s attacks, and they’ll simply let you whiff, and punish.
Whoops, I meant hit-strings. Is that a proper term? Or is it just combos? But yeah, they’ve basically already hit me.
It’s definitely not something I do every block string either. To be honest there’s little point of mashing with Makoto during the match as her reversal options are reasonably poor outside of Ultra. It’s one of those ‘the chips are down, this is my best bet’ situations. If I get lucky then it’s ‘yay’ for me.
I wouldn’t call mashing ‘Scrubby’. If I remember correctly Valle was mashing out an EX-DP at the end of his match with Daigo in EVO2011, which helped him prolong the game, which I guess he did eventually lose.
I’ve forgotten my original point now. I guess I’m wondering if I’ve been a scrub this whole time I’ve been playing…
Sure. I just call it a ‘block string’ because it forces you to block and only block, and any other option will only result in you blocking or getting hit. I differentiate it from ‘combos’, ‘hit strings’, and ‘attack strings’, because all 3 of those terms imply that you are hitting your opponent and causing damage.
I’m not saying that mashing is a scrubby attack. It’s commonly known that even the very best players mash at times, but they do it knowing that it’s their best option in that specific scenario. If anything, it reflects on how easy it is to land a reversal DP input in SF4, but I digress. Valle said it best, “at the highest levels of play, there’s a lot of randomness going on”. You kind of have to disrupt people’s expectations of how you play. This is largely why people, at the lowest levels, lose to guys playing online Kens who mash DP. They keep thinking, “Well, surely he’s not stupid enough to keep mashing reversal DP,” and they keep getting caught by it, and it’s their fault.
Anyways, being scrubby is more of a mentality issue than one of experience or matchup strategies. Basically, if you’re complaining about everything in the game EXCEPT for your own shortcomings, you’re a scrub.
And herev I just thought it was someone hanging out the passenger side of their best friend’s ride trying to holla at women.
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So there’s an absolute definition for it now? Ha, And I thought it was a childish egotistic thing. Guess I’m wrong, and Oxford and Collins are right. 
“Scrub” seems outdated. We really just gotta start calling people “DSP’s” from now on
Read earlier posts in this thread, read dom 101, talk to people who have been playing since sf2. There is an actual agreed on meaning of scrub, and there is also a second definition, which get used alot, possibly more than the correct definition, that while more known IS NOT CORRECT.
DSP has actually been a strong competitor in the past for SF2. I just think he’s starting to live up to his own character as an annoying troll and “internet comedian.” Plus his ego is out of this world, and his legion of 13-year-old fan boys are willing to defend him at all costs.
Man! check out my Scrub Series on my youtube channel then see who the real scrub is.
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Scrub = arrogant player that doesnt want to learn, who also thinks tactics that beat them are spam or cheap, thinks that there is a right way to play the game and its the way that they play, complains loudly to the effect of the aforementioned when they lose.
That, is what the classic definition is… Well its more like, arrogant player that doesnt want to learn, but instead wants to complain about why they lost…
The thing to note is that ALL of those things in the first paragraph need to be present in order to call someone a scrub.
And by and large, the one that is most indicative of scrubdom is not wanting to put in the time to get better.
In here, incorrectly, people are saying that complaining is what is the most indicative of being a scrub… In the classic scenario it simply isnt true.
I posit that anyone who is fine with losing is just that… A loser. You dont become a winner by losing and saying hey that was awesome. You become better by using that loss as motivation to get better… Which is what the quintessential scrub is lacking. You can be the sorest loser on the planet and not be a scrub cause you may go home and practice for hours and hours to get better and beat what you lost to.
The word scrub nowadays is mostly used by the younger generation to describe a sore loser, that makes them feel bad for winning, by complaining, and funnily enough it outs the person using the word scrub, as a sore winner if they think that their play was so flawless to not be able to be critqued negatively.
In the end scrub is a word losers use to describe other losers, which is why i stopped using the term to describe people a long time ago, i prefer describing certain tactics as scrubby… Like doing a bunch of dps in a row in sf4 with no meter to cancel… Or mashing crouchtech with no timing, or jumping alot with no set strategy in mind…
Scrubby shit is easy to beat though, except for divekicks, which is why i no longer play sf4… Tired of dealing with divekicks of one sort or another.
-dime
okay first of all the TV show Scrubs did not invent scrubs.
you’ve probably worn them at some point, shits been standard for medical use since like 1980.
ahh, "except…"
one of the scrub’s favorite words.
The exact same thing happened to the term pringles, it has always happened in this community, but it blew up when streams came around and someone could spread incorrect usage to thousands of people at once. Seriously people were on streams saying pringles meant good, bad, cool, cheap, pretty much anything and everything. If one fairly trustworthy person gets on a stream with 3,000 viewers and uses a term incorrectly at least 500 of those viewers will not know what they said was incorrect and think that that is the correct usage of the term and begin using it in that context.
Heres another example of a bad definition showing up in a guide.
The heck DOES “pringles” mean anyway? Easy to open up?
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A scrub is somebody who closes off their ability to criticize themselves and learn how to play the game in favor of making up excuses and arbitrary rules in order to justify their lack of skill.