it’s held in las vegas though so i don’t think it’s illegal
i lol’d
Just had a good run with blanka and i got the following:
“fuck you! you fuzzy green balling asshole, i bet your bf looks like blank and you take his cock like a bitch…what is it with you fags and hairy balls…you sicken me”
My reply was:
“your dad says hi”
lol:rofl:
sigh… these are great.
I was called worse than a noob. But I completely destroyed him. I got 114 BP from a guy with 4800+ and I’m around 4200 
why the **** would i care about a negative rep on the Internet?!?! lol. there is a real world outside of your front door! see, i will play at any tourney but too bad i can’t fly to cali just to lose to an Internet worm at the almighty evo!
i definitely throw the controller around. are you watching me through my cam?!? eww. ima have to start turning that thing off. heh, you would feel warm and fuzzy inside though, wouldn’t you?
ok, maybe MORALS wasn’t the word i was looking for. maybe i should ask the English Professor below for the correct terminology. but what i meant was that how does a player CONSCIOUSLY allow themselves to play cheap? if i think what I’m doing is annoying, cheap, cheesy, whatever you guys wanna call it… i stop and switch my style up. to me, thats more respectable then someone getting a win by consciously being an a-hole… to put it lightly.
thanks Mr. English Professor!! i didn’t have my “pety typo spell check” enabled. :rolleyes: for you to point out that i used an E instead of an I for the ONLY word i misspelled in my entire post makes you more ridiculous than misspelling ridiculous! not sure how to feel about that.
but, yes, thank you again for encouraging me to look for a thread helping me to counter this epidemic of “cheap fighter 4”. i wasn’t bitching and moaning as you say, i was simply replying to the initial question of the thread about people msging when they lose. i am man enough to admit i am a sore loser, but only because i am definitely not a noob. it sucks to see someone who has not enough brain capacity to do anything else but spam one move. who cares if it works? simply don’t do it.
i know you leet pros on here will say its easy to jump, dash, duck, counter, whatever… but its not that easy in some situations, sincerely. plus the standard xbox controller isn’t helping too much, although i’ve fairly adjusted to it since my entry into the gamestop tourney. (which i made to the 2nd round since im such a noob :wonder:) i didn’t come to this thread to “bitch and moan” or start problems with you guys. I actually DID come to polish my game and learn a thing or two.
so sorry to all the tough guys who thought i would get “flamed” or that it would be funny to flame me for posting the truth imo. bottom line, its called trash talking. it adds spark to the game and gets the players into a zone. whether that be negative or positive. lol. no matter how many times i throw my controller, i still put SF4 back into my xbox everyday.
usually the trash talk that i send to people after the match causes us to link up and talk about the game. we rematch (where i redeem myself somewhat) and add each other as friends. personally, i think this is what it’s all about and what we need more of. i do get whipped, i do curse the dude out, but then we make amends and learn from EACH OTHER in the long run. sorry if everyone got offended by my confession, but im here to talk about the game just like you guys. ::uses spell check now::
Let’s count the fallacies / false statements…
- Everyone who posts on an SF forum / is good at SF is an “internet worm” and total dork.
- There are rules external to the game itself that we should abide by, and if you don’t follow them (god forbid you play with winning in mind!) then you are somehow a lowlife.
Petty has two 't’s.
- Yes, you were.
- You are a “noob,” but there’s nothing wrong with that. But you are a scrub, and there is something very wrong with that.
- They must have some brain capacity to realize that you can’t beat it, and they will win if they do it. Which is the reason you play the game in the first place. [media=youtube]IMk5sMHj58I"[/media]
- Why not? If I was playing against you and realized that fireball spam was beating you, I would exploit it mercilessly in order to end the match as quickly as possible, so I could go find someone who is actually fun to play against. If you can’t get past that you are obviously not going to push my limits at all, which is not fun.
- If they’re really doing one move over and over like you claim they are, then it is. If they aren’t doing just one move but basing their offense around a couple moves, then I don’t see why you think that’s so “cheap.”
- You’ll never accomplish that unless you relenquish your own arbitrary “code of honor” and start to play to win. Why should we all play by the rules you deem are fair? What gives you the authority to come up with the rules of cheapness and non-cheapness and judge other people by them?
- Maybe amongst top, serious players. When we absolutely demolish you and you still talk trash it’s just pathetic, and kind of funny even.
This is all well and good and what you should be doing, except cut the trash talk and just get straight to the learning.
I think I speak for everyone on SRK (And I’m sorry if I don’t) when I say:
Read this short e-book and do not post again until you have finished it cover to cover and let it digest for at least one full day.
Here is the very quote that defines you as a Street Fighter player:
'Now, everyone begins as a poor player?it takes time to learn a game to get to a point where you know what you?re doing. There is the mistaken notion, though, that by merely continuing to play or ?learn? the game, one can become a top player. In reality, the ?scrub? has many more mental obstacles to overcome than anything actually going on during the game. The scrub has lost the game even before it starts. He?s lost the game even before deciding which game to play. His problem? He does not play to win.
The scrub would take great issue with this statement for he usually believes that he is playing to win, but he is bound up by an intricate construct of fictitious rules that prevents him from ever truly competing. These made-up rules vary from game to game, of course, but their character remains constant. "
I’m no english professor, just hate when ridiculous is spelled wrong. And its numb nuts like novakain that make street fighter worth while. You have to be as dumb as you write if you fall for the same sh!t over and over, so much so, that it actually merits (in your mind) you writing about it on SRK. You sir, are what they (by “they” i mean me, and most people on this thread) call a chode. Novakain…you FAIL.:clapdos:
And big up to Mechajesus, that herm edwards quote was serious. lmao.
Was playing some guy’s Ken, who I beat. He then found me again and chose Sagat. He won one, I won one, and then halfway through the third round he disconnected. I don’t even think I was winning at that point.
He then chose to message me this: “gro batard tu pu cloochhard”. Hell, I don’t even know what language that is, and whether I should be feeling complimented or insulted… I’m guessing the latter.
ok with ego’s aside, mech looks like the only one thinking. thanks guys! entertaining enough. im glad we could clear this up. lol. i’m going to read that e-book, which looks awesome! however, i am far from a “scrub”… BUT perhaps as street fighter slang it may pertain… because i do LIKE to play to win, but do i REALLY play to win? thank you for putting it that way. i am one of those players who likes the combos, ultra’s and other techniques because they look awesome to perform and amazing on screen. sadly not because of how much damage it does to the other character. do you get what i’m saying? i was slightly conscious of this before, but now i see it more… noob is definitely unacceptable though. lol. i mean, i’m 26 years old but i guess there is still a little kid inside of me who used to stare at the street fighter II screen at the arcades and be amazed for hours. i’m someone who just truly appreciates street fighter as a franchise and how much it’s done in the past 20 years as i grew up with it. tekken, mortal kombat and other fighting games are cool too, but to me there is nothing like SF and i enjoy playing it. can you see how that feeling can get ruined by these overly serious players who “can’t lose a match ever, no matter what it takes!”? afterall, it IS a GAME. Regardless of how funny it was to watch Herm at that press conference or how catchy the phrase is… games are supposed to be FUN! I know winning is fun too… but no matter what, the game itself should be as well. There is a thin line between that. Football players get paid to win. Unless you’re in the MLG or being sponsored by someone (or win a tourney) YOU DON’T. so at the end of the day, have fun… and don’t focus too much on “which one move can i spam that he will have a problem defending against??” :rolleyes: cause all you get is bragging rights. it isn’t that serious. please use punches and kicks along with your fireballs, folks. lol. damn.
now someone said something about “the game is called street fighter, have you ever been in a street fight? there is no cheese.”
that was very ignorant. comparing video games to real life will wind up getting you arrested for shooting someone 'cause you thought they would respawn. like that kid on the news who killed his parents. maybe you should cut down your gaming time and experience reality for a few hours. in new york the ends dont justify the means and although the term chesse is not used in real life, YES there is usually no “cheesing” in a street fight… or it could get your ass killed. if its a mutual fist fight between two people then there is an agreement and this is called a “fair one”. if someone jumps in, then your whole crew gets mashed on and the fight is over. someone might get stabbed, shot, or whatever. you lost for “CHEESING”. if someone uses a weapon, usually a bigger one comes out. point being, if you want to compare real life to video games then yes, i have been in a street fight and no, there was no cheese. if you’re trying to kill the friggin guy then yeah some one will do something DIRTY like using a weapon (spamming fireballs), choking someone out (throws) or whatever (whatever) but usually both the people handle it like men, and have enough respect to keep it a FAIR fight. let the best man win. pretty bad analogy but you brought it up. i personlly cant do any flaming kicks in real life. sorry.
another thing i didnt understand was the accusation of trying to “troll”?? dunno what that meant. i been on the internet for probably over 15 years and still dont understand that teh leet0 hax0r lulz ruffle ping talk.
oh, and i still stand by the views and opinions that i stated before but i hope now everyone understands a little more about where i was coming from. ultimately, like i said earlier, i was just responding to the thread by admitting this thread is about me (well not just me, but you know) and didnt mean to offend anyone with a guilty conscience who spams one move. 
i feel that if i wasn’t a new member then i wouldnt have gotten as much criticism as i did and that’s messed up. i wasn’t crying i was poking fun at the idea by saying yes, that was me. and i will continue to do it.
Here’s the deal novacain… you ARE a scrub because you expect people to play by your own little made up rules and when they don’t play exactly how you tell them to then you start whining and crying about stuff that isn’t fair. I’ll ask a question… can you tell me the exact definition of what “cheesing” is? I don’t want generalities like “fire ball spam” or “throwing too much”… I want you to tell me EXACTLY how many fireballs or how many throws is too much, 4? 5? 6? The problem is that you can’t. With you, the point when something crosses the line into “cheesing” is when you can’t defend against it. Doesn’t matter if it’s a throw, fireball or even a jab. If you can’t beat it then you cry “cheese”, if you can beat it then it is an OK strategy. Tell me how people are suppose to follow an ever changing rule such as this?
I accidentally quit on someone recently and still feel bad about it. I can’t remember who I was using but he was using Ryu and he really stomped me. I had been playing like absolute shit and was starting to get irritated. When he finally won I got pissed and just shut the Xbox off. About five seconds later I thought “Oh shit, I just quit on that guy.” So I logged back on and sent him a message saying good game and apologizing. He was cool about it though.
First and last time I do that though. I know how annoying it is to earn a win and have it yanked away from you at the last second so I felt pretty shitty about it, even if it wasn’t intentional.
Novakain, when I said you were a “noob” I mean as in the skill level you seem to portray. If you can’t beat someone sitting on the other side of the screen and throwing fireballs, I would call that “noob” skill level. There’s nothing wrong with being a noob. In fact, every time you enter a game you are at least a noob to that game, and maybe even a noob to the whole genre of games. I didn’t mean to imply you hadn’t been around SF for a long time, just that you don’t come off as being very good at it.
Reading your post, I just get the feeling that you are not playing SF to win. I dunno how much you read of that book I linked you to, but it’s fine to decide not to play a game to win. For example, before I got into SF I used to play Starcraft sometimes. I would dabble in Starcraft strategies and techniques and work on my mechanics and improve a little bit. I would try really hard to win every match I played. However, I did not “play to win” per se. I played for the enjoyment I got out of the game, because my time investment in the game per week was rather small (a couple hours a week) and at that rate that was no way I was going to win even a quarter of the random battle.net games I played in.
The thing that you don’t seem to understand is that playing to win IS fun for me. Being engaged in that kind of serious battle is immensely gratifying. Pitting wits against another human being, seeing how I can eke out an advantage over them or them over me, is great fun. It’s not that only winning is fun for me, although I’d prefer to win more often than I lose; it’s that being beaten is fun as well. Holding back isn’t really fun for me. If I’m “spamming” fireballs and I decide to “be fair” and quit “spamming” them, and I lose, then what do I learn? Would I have won if I continued to throw fireballs? I don’t know. All I know is that I just pissed away the opportunity to find out. If I continue throwing fireballs and I win great. But if my opponent proves to me that he can defeat that trick and beats me into the ground despite my best effort, hey, that’s great too. I don’t like winning OR losing if I feel like I’m just toying around with the game. But I love it when I get in a real battle with my opponent, and one of us finally RIPS the win from the other’s hands. I don’t want to feel like I’ve been given or given away anything for free.
If you don’t want to play to win then fine. But just realize that there is a great art to SF. It might not be fun for you to lose horribly to someone who just sits on the other end of the screen and throws fireballs. And you can bet that the person throwing the fireballs probably wishes you would show him that you can beat it already so this match might get less boring. The difference is that he is not going to give it to you on a silver platter; he wants you to take it from him.
By the way, spamming fireballs or throwing is not like bringing a knife / gun to a fistfight. Yes, playing to win in real life the way we play to win in SF is probably not a good idea and might even be an unhealthy way to conduct yourself. But in SF it all goes, and neither throwing nor spamming fireballs is unbeatable or unfair in any way. If you think it is then go online and just try out spamming fireballs and throwing yourself, and you will see that a good number of people will easily defeat your shenanigans. The SF equivilent of brining a knife to a fistfight would be like, using a turbo controller.
The worst I’ve had is someone losing 7 games straight, then finally beating me once, kicking me, and replying with.
I KICK YOUR ASS NOOB FIX DAT WALMART CONNECTION.
Nova only deserves 4 letters from anyone.
GTFO
ive only had a few messages, they all say turtle lol
no not 4 5 or 6 fireballs. FIREBALLS THE ENTIRE 2 ROUNDS! literally. i actually just played an akuma who did that to me again… thats what reminded me to come back on this board. people say to dash jump or whatever… but it doesnt work. i tried to dash under the air fireballs but it kept hitting me in the head. it worked twice but thats about it. he was just alternating ground regular fireballs, red fireballs and jumping air fireballs. you guys all claim to be so good and have all the answers but i wish you would see some of the matches im talking about. i tried my hardest to not consider it cheese and not be stupid and use my head on how to duck, dodge and jump around 50+ fireballs for 2 full rounds but it didn’t work too well. you cannot fight someone who maps fireball motions onto a madcatz!! i don’t care what you say.
also, throws. it’s not how many throws… it’s the situation in which the throw was made. if someone walks up to you and throws you. that is cheese. damn, haven’t any of you people played at an arcade in the last 15 years? these were the unwritten rules of the game back in the day. you dont remember when if your opponent threw you by accident HE WOULD ACTUALLY APOLOGIZE AND LET YOU THROW HIM BACK!!! where are all my street fighter players from the 90’s arcade scene?! i wouldn’t expect any of you 16 year olds to understand. the OGs wrote these unwritten rules and now you kids arent obeying them… it’s like snitching. back it in the day snitching was frowned upon and now its being done everywhere…
ill tell you how people are supposed to follow this… first of all, it is never changing!! how is it an ever changing rule? as i said before, these rules were around when SF2 was hot at the arcades. im not even talking about over the internet via xbox live… in the arcade if you pulled some baby shit like spamming or premeditated throwing then the dude would stop playing the game and turn to his opponent and there would be a problem. this is just how it went and you new school cats who are really noobs who call OGs noobs have no respect for the game. i dont expect you guys to understand and you can continue to flame me and call me a scrub or a noob… but talk to someone who was there. talk to someone who would wake up early and stand in front of the arcade until it opened. when we used to put our quarters on the top of the cabinet to signify who had next. there were rules to this shit. now it just seems like you guys are going crazy with it.
its like soulja boy to hip hop. i know rap started in the 80’s but it took until the 90’s to even realize it would stick around. in the 80s they were just having fun and didnt know what to expect for the future. the golden era of the 90s set the blueprint for how the game is done. now souljaboy is going against the rule book and fuckin up the game. of course, he is still making money and selling records. but only to young kids who dont know any better and aren’t aware of what real hip hop is. street fighter today seems to be the same scenario. this new age of kids playing are throwing the old school unwritten rule book out the window as long as they win and then making excuses for it.
that is basically what you’re trying to tell me.
too much fail in this guys posts…sooo much crying.
Huh? Map fireball motions onto a madcatz? What does that even mean? Are you implying that the MadCatz sticks have a macro feature? They don’t; just so you know. And yes, yes you can beat fireball spamming shotos. People do it all the time (myself included occasionally :bgrin:)
No, it isn’t. Just because you say it is doesn’t make it so.
Yes. And people STILL play THIS game in arcades.
Unwritten huh? Then how exactly do you expect the other player to know your rules. I mean, the rules aren’t even written down anywhere.
I played SF2 in the 90’s; in the arcade. I remember people who had similar attitudes as you. Just because a bunch of scrubs all complain about something doesn’t mean their argument is valid. It just means there are a bunch of sore losers in the world.
Wait. Are they written or unwritten? Did they write them with disappearing ink or some shit?
blah blah blah. cry cry cry
huh? the fuck?
i used to play starcraft too but it was wierd cause i could never win. never could stop a rush even when i tried hard and if the battle actually got going, i would play for hours and still lose… could never understand how people do it… smh anyway…
in your first example… yes you probably would have won if you kept spamming but do you really want that type of a win when you know you have potential for more??? if you decide to be fair and still come off with the victory i think it will feel better than doing something 90% of people can’t counter. probably gets the heart beating a little more as well. i’d like to think more highly of myself rather than limiting my matches to one move. be true to yourself. believe it or not, there are times when i don’t even use a fireball… ever in the entire match and still come off with the victory. whats the point of playing if you aren’t going to move your character? don’t you want to feel satisfied with your skill? there are 7 other attack buttons on the controller! i always wonder how it feels for the other person knowing they just ripped themselves off as well as the other player… i mean, a win is a win… but do they feel proud? do they at least feel happy that they paid 60$ to stand on one side of the screen doing hadokens?? its kinda funny. in a both a comedic way, and in a sad way as well… i would do it myself, but i can’t bring myself to that level. i dont complain when i get comboed real good. or i face someone who whips my ass using a variety of moves. i get impressed actually. like i fought a gen the other day who didnt get me upset one bit but i lost fairly bad… cause i respected him. i dont respect someone who takes the easy way out. i understand where you are coming from but can’t say i entirely agree with it. read the response i left above and try to relate to what i’m saying because i know i’m not the only one who feels this way and is used to these “made up rules”.
i know this isnt real but i found it pretty funny for the topic that was so blown out of proportion by flamers. its exactly what happeneds to me. [media=youtube]NErgvGwXsC0[/media]